Evaluation of the policies of George W. Bush and his Republican conservatives on America.
Why the Bush Economy is not working for the American Family!
Published on June 12, 2006 By COL Gene In Politics



I have been accused of not acknowledging the GOOD Economic news. That is not true! I have acknowledged as the Bush administration has been telling us that we have had strong GDP growth. There has been some increase in productivity. Many Corporate profits have been UP and until to about two weeks ago the Stock market was UP.

Bush and his supporters say they can not understand WHY the public is NOT HAPPY with the way Bush has handled the economy. It is NOT that the administration has not told us about all the above GOOD Economic News. A new face at Treasury will not change the public perception. The answer is quite SIMPLE! This GOOD economic news that Bush points to is about the Macro economy -The overall issues like GDP Growth and Profit increases.

The issue for the masses during the Bush presidency is that his policies have NOT impacted the factors that the masses see week to week as they try to pay their bills. Things like Average weekly wage -What they have to spend. The cost to get to work and heat their homes. The cost of Food and Health care. Interest and the higher credit card bills they receive each month that are increasing because of the higher interest rates and higher balances. Some are loosing their long standing jobs to other countries in Manufacturing and High Tec. They read about the fact that the American Auto makers are loosing money and closing plants. They see the textile industry all but disappear in America. They read about the growing trade deficit and how much of it is due to China. They see their president turn a deaf ear to American Job Loss and how unfair China is in trade and currency matters. The see how many illegal aliens come across the border and depress the wage rates paid to Americans while President Bush does NOTHING for the past 5 years! They see the cuts backs in health coverage and pension plans by employers. They see the soaring cost of college for their children with no more money to pay for the higher expenses and cuts backs in Federal College assistance. These are the Micro economics of the economy. These are the issues that the Bush economic and tax policies have not improved or have made worse for the average workers. That is why the vast majority in America are NOT experiencing the GOOD Economic News Bush tells them about!

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on Jun 12, 2006
"Things like Average weekly wage -What they have to spend"


Please stop passing on that lie. Wages in the US have risen steadily. What you are twisting is the fact that MORE jobs have been created at the low-end. That doesn't mean anyone is making less, that just means there are more jobs now than there was.

If you have 10 jobs that pay $20 an hour, the average wage is $20 an hour. If you create 10 more jobs that pay $7 an hour, you haven't lowered the wages of the first jobs, you've actually created more earnings. You, for propaganda reasons, total them all up and divide, pretending that suddenly "Average Wages" are suddenly almost half of what they were...

That's why you are able to look at months when the average wage has risen, and are still dishonestly able to claim Americans are making less. You've been told over and over that you are misrepresenting that fact and you continue to do so, which makes you a liar in my opinion. A society needs entry level positions, and they are always going to pay less. When we didn't have them you were bitching about unemployment.

"The cost of Food and Health care. "


Something that you have been challenged over and over to trace to Bush policies, and which you always refuse to do. Food and health care costs are not any higher now than they were under Clinton.

"Interest and the higher credit card bills they receive each month that are increasing because of the higher interest rates and higher balances."


You know as well as I do that credit card interest rates have very little to do with the Fed's interest rate hikes. You can't tell me people paying 15% interest on credit cards are harmed by the prime lending rate of what, 8%? If anything, raising interest rates is good for America in that it gives people incentive to stop spending money they don't have and to draw interest on their money to create wealth for themselves.

"Some are loosing their long standing jobs to other countries in Manufacturing and High Tec"


Someone who espouses higher taxation shouldn't start whining about losing jobs. In order to keep jobs here we have to be competitive in wooing businesses and entrepreneurs. Taxing them to death isn't going to persuade anyone to create jobs here.

"They read about the fact that the American Auto makers are loosing money and closing plants. They see the textile industry all but disappear in America. They read about the growing trade deficit and how much of it is due to China."


Explain to us, please, how this is Bush's fault, and how the situation would be helped by higher taxes. Higher taxes means higher prices means less competitive pricing.

"The see how many illegal aliens come across the border and depress the wage rates paid to Americans while President Bush does NOTHING for the past 5 years!"


Just like Clinton did nothing for 8 years. Just like Democrats who STILL want to continue to do nothing to please their Hispanic voters.

"They see the cuts backs in health coverage and pension plans by employers."


Which isn't something, again, that anyone who wants to punitively tax employers should want people looking at.

"hey see the soaring cost of college for their children with no more money to pay for the higher expenses and cuts backs in Federal College assistance."


Federal college assisitance has been what has driven up the price of college tuition over the past decades. Each time the government raises the level of assistance, the tuition rises to match it. Free money doesn't lower prices, it causes them to go up because people can afford to pay more.

"These are the issues that the Bush economic and tax policies have not improved or have made worse for the average workers. That is why the vast majority in America are NOT experiencing the GOOD Economic News Bush tells them about!"


This is just another rambling post in which you don't really point to any proof of these perceived problems, and which you do NOTHING to connect Bush to any of them, even if they were true. You could write one of these an hour, just rearranging sentences, but they would be just as meaningless.
on Jun 12, 2006
Bakerstreet

In another post I gave you the EW-Mail I received from the Labor Dept that guides you to the Average Weekly Wage in constant dollars. It clearly showed that over the past two years Average Weekly Wages are DOWN and over the past 5 years they are FLAT. The 5 years prior to Bush the Average Weekly wage was up a modest amount.

Every issue I posted about the factors that impact individuals is 100% correct and is the reason why the average American is NOT happy with the economy. The simple fact is that those things that impact their daily life and ability to pay their bills are not better. In fact for the lower income working families their economic condition is worse because wage growth in the lower paying jobs is nonexistent while their cost have risen just like for everyone else.

The Bush approach helps Big business (Profits and GDP) but it does not help low and middle income Americans. His borrowing is in part responsible for high interest. Too much of the tax cuts go to the wealthy not the low or middle income families. That is why the vast majority are not happy with the way Bush has handled the economy.
on Jun 12, 2006
And I am really supposed to believe that if your skewed statistics showed otherwise you wouldn't be here claiming wage inflation? You really think the higher wages in the 90's were because of a healthy economy, and not because of untold thousands of tech jobs that paid insanely inflated wages that couldn't be sustained?

Again, it's like the unemployment thing. Unemployment high? You cry foul. Low unemployment with entry level positions? You cry lower average wages. Low unemployment with better paying jobs? You'd cry wage inflation and no jobs for the unskilled and new workers.

There is ALWAYS some way for you to turn this around. Worse, you always lay the blame on Bush and never, ever back it up when challenged. You just say that Bush should have been doing something about it, and leave it at that. The French government takes a strong hand and micromanages labor and wages, and look where it leaves them.
on Jun 12, 2006
The fact remains, the vast majority are NOT doing better under the tax and economic policies we are following. Some Big Business is doing well. The salaries of the most senior executives have soared. The net worth of the top 10 % has grown very well. They are where the benefits from the policies we are following end. The cost of the policies to the country is record high debt at the Federal level and for individuals. We have ignored the impending funding problems that will first strike with Medicare and then Social Security. Medicaid is a problem today for both the Federal and States governments. The obligation we are creating to pay the interest on the debt will be staggering. There is no attempt to find real solutions to ANY of these issues which will cause a VERY serious problem for our children. They will be stuck with the issues that will face them plus be faced with the issued we refused to confront.
on Jun 12, 2006
The fact remains, the vast majority are NOT doing better under the tax and economic policies we are following.


Something you still haven't proven to be "fact".

I think it's hillarious how you keep ignoring what Baker posts.
on Jun 12, 2006
The proof is in the way Americans feel about the economy. They rest in the stagnant Average Weekly Wage. The are in the problems the average family is having because of inflation especially energy costs. Nothing Bakerstreet has posted has changed any of the facts that have caused the dissatisfaction with Bush about the economy by about 70 % of Americans!
on Jun 12, 2006
The proof is in the way Americans feel about the economy.


Which you are basing on biased media polls that oversample the opposition party. Have you personally traveled the country and interviewed all of America?

You base your entire arguement on "average" wages. You have no idea what people are doing with their money or what wages they are making. All of this is just another pathetic attempt to blame Bush. Which Baker has pointed out you still can't explain how any of this is Bush's fault.
on Jun 13, 2006
IslandDog

First, the Average WEEKLY WAGE IS THE MOST BASIC ISSUE BECAUSE IT IS what people have to meet their bills?

Second, I have also posted the following that you ignore:

Inflation especially the cost of energy

Higher Interest Rates

Loss of benefits

Soaring College costs for their children

Soaring Credit card bills

Loss of jobs to foreign countries

Reports of the problems in American Auto companies, Airlines and the end to industries like the electronics and textile industries.

No, it is not just the Average Weekly Wage!!!!!


on Jun 13, 2006
First, the Average WEEKLY WAGE IS THE MOST BASIC ISSUE BECAUSE IT IS what people have to meet their bills?


Col, this is what we talk about with you. You, yourself, the "col", does not have any idea what the "average" family brings home and does with their money. You base all your opinions, and yes all they are is your opinions, on data that you distort. Baker has shown you otherwise and that's something you IGNORE.


Second, I have also posted the following that you ignore:


And several of us has explained these things to you. It's AMAZING that you don't understand that.

Just one example is the airline industry. For as long as I can remember the airline industry has been in trouble. That does not affect the "average" family col. Mostly everything you list there is not the fault of Bush. Try looking at things other than blaming Bush and you might see the world differently. What a sad life you must live.
on Jun 13, 2006
IslandDog

I provided the source of the Average Weekly Wage data and it is NOT distorted. It clearly shows that over the past two years it has fallen and over the past 5 years it is FLAT. It also shows that in the 5 years BEFORE Bush it went up. Below is the E-Mail I received from BLS:

Mr. Abel,

The data you are seeking can be located at the Current Employment Statisitics (CES) portion of the BLS website. To get there from the main page of the BLS website (http://www.bls.gov/), click on the link for "National Employment" in the Employment & Unemployment section located on the top right side of the page. From there, click on "Get Detailed CES Statistics," then on "Create Customized Tables (one screen)." As you asked about Average Weekly Wages adjusted for inflation, select "Average Weekly Earnings, 1982 Dollars" as your data type in box 1. Select the sector of the economy where your interest lies in box 2, and any specific industries in box 3. In box 4, check the box for the type of data you want (seasonally adjusted, not seasonally adjusted, or check both boxes to get both data types), then click "Get Data." When the window containing the data opens, change the range of the data using the drop-down menus at the top and click "Go." The resulting table will contain the data you were searching for.

Thank you for your interest in the CES program.
Christopher Goodenow
Economist
Current Employment Statistics Program
Bureau of Labor Statistics
202-691-6555


Please show me how you have explained away the:

Increasing Interest Rate
Higher Energy Costs
Continued loss of jobs to other countries
Plant closings in the American Auto Industry
Loss of industries like Textiles and Electronics
Loss of employer provided Health and Retirement benefits
Higher College Costs
Inflation

You have NOT shown that these things are not taking place or that they do not adversely impact the average family.

NOT one of the issues raised by Bakerstreet in his first post proves these economic issue do not exist or that they are not impacting the people of this country. Bush telling the American public about GDP growth and higher productivity mean NOTHING to them. In fact higher productivity means that companies are able to generate higher profits WITHOUT adding jobs. Even when the Stock Market was doing so well that does not enable most families to meet their monthly bills. Now even the Stock Market is not performing. It is down almost 1,000 points in the past month!

As I said, the Bush Economy is not helping the VAST MAJORITY of Americans!!!!!
on Jun 13, 2006
As I said, the Bush Economy is not helping the VAST MAJORITY of Americans!!!!!


And as I said, this is completely your opinion. You do not know personally how the "average" American is doing. You are basing your opinoin on an e-mail from the government you don't trust anyways.

I love how you keep bringing up the stock market when it's down, and then turn around and completely ignore it when it's way up. Hypocrisy I say.

You keep complaining about jobs, the unemployment rate in this country is very low. Jobs are constantly being created. You just cannot be satisfied with anything. Seek help for your obsession with Bush.
on Jun 13, 2006
IslandDog

I said the Stock Market does NOT (can you read) impact the ability of the average family to pay their bills. However the market has dropped about 1,000 points in a month!

The issues I posted are NOT opinion they are facts that you can easily verify.

Some time ago I posted the results of the U.S. Metro Economics 2004-2005 Report reported by the U.S. Conference of Mayors which is a non-partisan group. This was a VERY comprehensive study that looked at 5 years of jobs data across the United States. That study clearly documented the following:

On the AVERAGE, the wages of jobs created in 2004-2005 compared with the jobs lost from 2001-2003 are 21% lower

In 18 states the jobs created during 2004-2005 have not totally replaced the jobs lost from 2001-2003.

Jobs created in 2004-2005 compared with the jobs lost from 2001-2003 have fewer benefits.

Thus we have created jobs that, on the average, pay less and have fewer benefits.


on Jun 13, 2006
I never said I do not trust the Government. I said our President and VP have given us half truths and distorted things to do what they wanted to do. I trust the data form BLS, OMB, GAO, CBO and Treasury. THAT DATA IS BEING GNERATED BY PROFESSIONALS THAT ATE NOT RUNNING FOR OFFICE.
on Jun 13, 2006
I never said I do not trust the Government. I said our President and VP have given us half truths and distorted things to do what they wanted to do.


So you and them have something in common.
on Jun 13, 2006
IslandDog

Better look again. I document my claims.
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