The issue that needs to be addresses is what Intelligence that refuted the Bush/Cheney claims in late 2002 were KNOWN by Congress BEFORE the voted to give Bush the authority to Invade IRAQ?

The other issue is was Congress told of the warnings by people like Baker, Powell and Armitrage that said invading Iraq could destabilize Iraq and cause the sectarian violence we see today. We know Bush was warmed but the question is were those same warnings conveyed to Congress BEFORE the voted?

There is no question that the decision to invade Iraq was a mistake that could cause a much wider conflict in the future. Bush screwed the pooch because he did not listen to people with far more knowledge and experience then he and Cheney had in the Moslem World!

As to the books Former CIA Section chiefs wrote—they conveyed what happened in their books and were the people that KNEW what the Intelligence said. They have ALL said the very same thing—Bush only used that which supported what he wanted to do and IGNORED everything else. Time has proven that what Bush Ignored was correct and what he choose to use was incorrect!

As to the books Former CIA Section chiefs wrote—they conveyed what happened in their books and were the people that KNEW what the Intelligence said. They have ALL said the very same thing—Bush only used that which supported what he wanted to do and IGNORED everything else. Time has proven that what Bush Ignored was correct and what he choose to use was incorrect!

They were selling books col, that was their motive.  The investigations that have been done showed that Bush and Cheney did not influence, or intentionally lie about intelligence that was given.   We have posted that so many times to you but you keep ignoring it like everything else that doesn't bash Bush.

IslandDog

You have proven NOTHOING of the sort. If you are saying these former CIA Officials and 4 Star General were not telling the truth and Bush was you are in dream world. The facts prove that what the CIA chiefs and Gen. Zinni have said is the truth and EVERYTHING Bush and Cheney said was WRONG! I guess Baker, Powell and Armitage are also not telling the truth about warning Bush of the danger that invading Iraq would produce! Add all the sources Bob Woodward quotes in his latest book and to assert that what Bush told us was true is a JOKE! He and Cheney lied over and over again.

The facts prove that what the CIA chiefs and Gen. Zinni have said is the truth and EVERYTHING Bush and Cheney said was WRONG! I guess Baker, Powell and Armitage are also not telling the truth about warning Bush of the danger that invading Iraq would produce! Add all the sources Bob Woodward quotes in his latest book and to assert that what Bush told us was true is a JOKE! He and Cheney lied over and over again.

Col you haven't provided proof.  A book by a journalist is not proof.  This is a simple concept you fail to grasp.  There is not any proof Bush intentially lied or misled.  This is fact col, get over it.

Col you haven't provided proof. A book by a journalist is not proof. This is a simple concept you fail to grasp. There is not any proof Bush intentially lied or misled. This is fact col, get over it.

no, a book is not proof. but it can be evidence , which in conjunction with other evidence does amount to proof. and over the last few years, the evidence pile is growing like a snowball goin down a mountain. poo-poo it all ya want, i could care less. but sooner or later, most of the time, the truth does come out...and i'm confident that eventually it will here too. whatever that truth may be.

IslandDog

The statements by Gen Zinni and the CIA Section chiefs that Bush Cherry Picked the Intelligence was from FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE. The MANY statements in the latest Woodward book as well were statements by people who had FIRST HAND KNOWLEDGE. You problem is you will just not accept the first had knowledge of these people because they document that Bush and Cheney manipulated the facts to support what they wanted to do. You also never address the fact that Baker, Armitage ands Powell warned Bush BEFORE he invaded Iraq of what might happen. What they warned Bush about is JUST WHAT we see today. You also do not acknowledge that the MOST senior Generals told Bush to establish control in Iraq after Saddam was removed from power it would take 500,000 troops. In fact Baker and Powell as also told Bush NOT TO invade Iraq "On the Cheep” Bush DID not listen to people with FAR more knowledge and experience then he had and the results have proven that they were correct and Bush was WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It is not the Books but the statements that these people have made in person that Bush ignored ANY Intelligence that did not support what he wanted to do. The purpose of Intelligence is to gather the facts BEFORE making a choice not selecting the Intelligence that supports a Choice you have made!