LOL.

November was an example of the conservatives punishing Republicans.  The democrats are not in power because they have ideas, they are in power because of conservatives who wanted to teach them a lesson.




America is still safe.  Terrorists are worried about Americans in Iraq, not in our streets.  The Congress, including leading democrats voted to support the war and claimed Iraq was a threat to the U.S.  None of your rhetoric can change this.

Now since you have been proved wrong about the rich and taxes, you are resorting to your usual blame Bush or Iraq strategy.  You have someone here telling you what they do with their money (invest in jobs), and you blindly ignore it and tell them otherwise.  One sided col is all you are.

Um, since I actually know what would happen and you don't, I am telling you, explicitly, what the result would be.

I keep a relatively small % of the "profit" the company makes for personal living and the rest I re-invest in the company.  Without that income, someone has to be laid off. It's that simple.

I also don't buy your bullshit about "half the lost revenue is being put back into new investment".  I'd like to see a link to that since I think you just made that up. That is the kind of statistic that is impossible to calculate.

For example, this past year, I bought a cottage up north.  That is an investment. But it's also something I can just for enjoyment with my family and friends.

And a socialist who is demanding rights to other people's money is in no position to call other people "greedy".  There is nothing "greedy" about expecting to keep what you earn. 

I disagree. The Republicans that lost were all liberal or liberal leaning. The ones that are conservative were re-elected. When given the choice between a liberal democrat and a liberal republican most people will vote for a liberal democrat. Conservatives win all over the place. Conservative Democrats and conservative Republicans have a lot in common. Just like liberal Democrats and liberal Republicans have a lot in common. You col make the error of thinking that Democrats are all liberal and Republicans are all conservative. How did the Democrats win the majority? They acted like conservatives.



News flash to col political hack! We don’t want to win the civil war. If there is a civil war we are not involved in it. What I see is an attack from Iran to destabilize a new and dangerous government on its border. Strange that you say there is a civil war because the liberals want there to be a civil war. The Brits have announced their timetable for pulling out of the region, not because there is a civil war but because their area is quiet, the Iraqi troops are trained and ready to take over there is no need for them to stay so they are leaving. Wow it seems that it is ok in that area and that the new nation is calming down contrary to your assertion that we are losing and that there is a civil war going on. Again I say that two thirds of the nation quiet and peaceful and one third is involved in a power play that is not working out so good for them.



I strongly believe you are wrong here. The only thing that is lost is your mind. Iraq is acting like any new nation does in the beginning of freedom. If you had the extensive knowledge you profess to have you might have studied how new nations are born and what they go through in the beginning. Instead you tell lies and distortions to prove your political agenda. You are a political hack that would rather see us lose by rooting for the enemy to win just because you don’t like the current president.

FrogBoy

All you have to do is look at the national debt every time we employed Supply Side Economics-- CUT TAXES and INCREASE SPENDING. Nothing you can say changes the results. When Reagan took over in 1981 the National Debt was $900 Billion. After 8 years of his fiscal policies we had a National debt of $4 Trillion. It took until 2000 to correct the problem Reagan created. Then in 2001 Bush did the exact same thing as Reagan-- Cut taxes and increased spending. Guess what, the national debt went from $5.7 Trillion when GWB took over and now 6 years later it is just about $9 Trillion! Voodoo Economics just like Bush 41 said!

paladin77

News flash - WE ARE NOT WINNING the Civil War in Iraq! As we move more troops into Baghdad, attacks are taking place in cities that have been sable for a long time. Yes the attacks are moving to other locations. Now the British are doing what the Democrats and the majority of the American People are demanding of our President. Withdraw. If this war was such a good idea and the areas controlled by the Britt’s is stable, why are the Britt’s not coming to Baghdad to help with the fight in that area? They are getting out of what is a lost cause!

I know from this statement that light bends around you because you are so dense. We don't fight their civil war they do. It is not up to us to fight or win a civil war in iraq. You would know that if you had spent any time in a leadership position in the military.



Wow, once again you describe how people fight a gorilla war. You may have heard of hit and run tactics. Fighting where the enemy is weakest is how the strategy works. Are you sure you were in the U.S. military? I mean you seem not to understand how war is waged or the different types of warfare used around the world. Allow me to give you a little history lesson. We used these tactics against the British in our war of independence I would assume that someone who attended a military war college would know this, maybe even someone who attended 9th grade history class would know this. The Jews used it against the British, I see a trend here with the British. The Palestinians are using it against the Israelis but it is not working because the only way to win that type of war is to have the stronger side give up. like the British did with us and the Jews. The Israelis refuse to give up so they are winning a war of attrition the Palestinians can’t win, just like the so called civil war manipulated by Iran can’t win unless we give up. you want us to give up and by doing so lose giving our enemies a great victory. Just what did they teach you in a war college how to lose?



No my incredibly dense friend, what they are doing is what we are doing. We each took an area and worked hard in it. Their area was smaller and less volatile, so it only took 4 years to accomplish while we have a larger area to work it will take longer but it is working. You refuse to see the good that is being done rather the political gain of a defeat for the president. By your statement you admit the plan is working because the British are doing the exact same plan we are but you claim the same strategy is a failure for us. You either are ignoring the facts of the case or you are so blind with hate for the president that you want us to lose the war just to justify your hate. I am not saying you are unpatriotic I am saying that your hate for the president is more important than the nation winning the war on terror.



It is a good idea that is working. They don't need to come to Baghdad because that is not the agreement. They have their patch and we have ours. The plan works the Brits are down to 7,000 troops because they have been pulling troops out for years, because as the troop strength of the Iraqis goes up the Brits have been reducing their people. We were taking the hit because the Brits were getting priority on the trained Iraqi troops. You might know this if you bothered to do some strange thing called research. Remember that the Brits are there to help us out by rights the US should be the last to leave as we have the largest force.



Lost cause? You are so blind how do you type the garbage you do? Pathetic comes to mind when I think of you, sad and pathetic. BTW a CNN poll says that 57% of Americans want to stay until the war is won in Iraq. CNN is not a conservative news organization and you have posted earlier today on another article how we should respect the will of the majority of Americans so I guess you are wrong again. If the majority of the people believed we were losing then I doubt there would be a majority saying we should stay.

I almost forgot, of the 7,000 troops the Brits have in Iraq and they are pulling out 1,700 which is just under 1% of all UN forces in the country. This does not sound or look like the Brits are running away they are following the plan made years ago, it is called an exit strategy.

Are you purposely this obtuse in your daily life?

The amount of taxes being collected isn't some voodoo secret. I even provided a friendly graph of it.

We are making as much in taxes today as we were back at the hight of the Clinton administration despite having lower taxes and with roughly the same # of tax payers. 

But we also increased spending faster.

We get it: You don't like deficits.  The problem is that you think if we raise taxes that the deficit will just go away which is just insane. The government will simply spend it.

Do you have children Gene? If you had a son who you have a $1.00 allowance but every week he spent $2.00 where he borrowed the other $1 from other people, is your solution to just give him $2?

Let's say that's what you did. You raised his allowance to $2. But now he's spending $3 (borrowing that same $1 from other people). Would you increase his allowance to $3?

Because yea, you basically wouldn't you? So then you give him a $3 allowance only he now spends $4. 

Only the insane would keep raising the kid's allowance expecting him to suddenly behave differently.

Of course, in YOUR scenario, you aren't going to raise your kid's allowance. You want ME to pay your kid's allowance for you. 

Lost cause? You are so blind how do you type the garbage you do? Pathetic comes to mind when I think of you, sad and pathetic. BTW a CNN poll says that 57% of Americans want to stay until the war is won in Iraq. CNN is not a conservative news organization and you have posted earlier today on another article how we should respect the will of the majority of Americans so I guess you are wrong again. If the majority of the people believed we were losing then I doubt there would be a majority saying we should stay.

More like a "vacuous, snotty-nosed heap of parrot droppings".

Frogboy

"We are making as much in taxes today as we were back at the height of the Clinton administration despite having lower taxes and with roughly the same # of tax payers.”

That is because of inflation. If our spending were the same as 2000 we would not have the budget problem. All that said, you have not explained WHY if we choose to spend $2.9 Trillion next year, as Bush has proposed, do we not have a tax system to collect $2.9 Trillion Dollars? Balancing the budget would not automatically increase spending. It would however be a RESPONSIBLE Fiscal policy. Who do you think will pay for the difference between what we are spending and what we collect in Federal tax revenues? The Tooth Fairy?You use the example of your kid’s allowance. If you gave you child $3 per week and they spent $4 per week and borrowed the difference every week from a loan shark, would you allow your child to continue that practice? That is just what we are doing when be approve Federal spending for MORE then the tax system will collect in tax revenue to pay for the spending. It could not be more basic! You also ignore the fact that the Comptroller General has documented that the added tax revenue from the growth caused by the tax cuts has only replaced ½ the amount of the tax cut. We are borrowing to give tax cuts, 70% of which goes to the top 20%, to taxpayers. Keep the tax cuts going to Middle Income workers, which is 30% of the total, and end the tax cuts to the other 70% to help balance the budget. At the same time cut out the PORK and END ALL EARMARKS and see how close we are to a balanced budget!!!

drmiler

This does describe what you post:

More like a "vacuous, snotty-nosed heap of parrot droppings".

That is not because of inflation. Infalation is running at around 3% annually. Tax income has gone up much faster than that.

There's really no resolution to this because you think it's acceptable for the government to steal money from people to give to other people simply because they're poor or need medicine or whatever.  Whereas I would cut or elminate much of those programs. And those programs are what cause the deficit.

Draginol

One simple question-- Is the amount we are spending and the taxes we collect equal each other?

If Not WHY NOT?

Draginol One simple question-- Is the amount we are spending and the taxes we collect equal each other? If Not WHY NOT?

Because it never has. And don't give me that Clinton sh*t. That particular time was because of the dot.com bubble and his supreme military cut backs! So it was circumstances not anything he did in particular.

drmiler

WRONG

In 2000 we collected several billion more then we spent. It is also the degree that we are out of balance. In all the years before 1980 (that included WWII, Korea and Vietnam), we had a total National Debt of less then one trillion ($ 909 Billion). In the 8 years Reagan cut taxes and increase spending (Supply side Voodoo economics) he added $3 Trillion. In the 12 years of Bush 41 and Clinton we added $1.7 Trillion and in 2000 we had a balanced budget. Since 2001 Bush has added over $3 Trillion and will add over $4 Trillion by Jan 2009 per the projections Bush has presented.

I guess the answer to my question, “Is the amount we are spending and the taxes we collect equal each other?" Answer- NO.


I did not see your answer to the second question-- WHY?

Ok the simple answer for the simple minded is NO! They don't match. I don't think that they will ever match.



Politicians and other peoples money is like a mothers breast and a hungry child. When politicians get the chance to look good while spending other peoples money they will do it every time without fail. I would say that liberals are the cause of this because they had the majority for 40 years when we had close to ballanced budgets and a trillion dollar surplus then spent it all on good works to get re-elected knowing it would not have to be paid back until they were long retired or dead. But it would not be the whole truth. Both sides of the isle are responsible for various reasons. I blame it all on politicians and the way the system works.