here read this the democrats are on a witch hunt and as such bush should never surrender those documents.

Published on Monday, November 6, 2006 by Agence France Presse
Cheney Says Unlikely He Would Comply with Congress Subpoena


US Vice President Dick Cheney said he would likely refuse to testify before Congress if he is faced with a subpoena from the opposition Democratic party.
The Democrats say if they prevail in Tuesday's legislative elections they may launch investigations into past actions taken by President George W. Bush's administration, possibly even issuing subpoenas to compel prominent officials to testify.

Asked in a television interview if he would testify before Congress if he received a subpoena from lawmakers however, Cheney said it was unlikely he would comply, as it would break with American political tradition.

"I have no idea that I'm going to be subpoenaed, and obviously, we'd sit down and look at it at the time," he told ABC's "This Week".

"But probably not, in the sense that the president and the vice president are constitutional officers and don't appear before the Congress," Cheney said.

Cheney, known for his robust view of the executive branch's power, said it was not customary for the president or vice president to be compelled to testify before a congressional committee.

"I think that's been the tradition. I can't think of the last time a president did appear before the Congress, or a vice president," Cheney said.

When reminded by the television interviewer that former president Gerald Ford testified before Congress in the 1970s, Cheney said that Ford had appeared voluntarily without a subpoena.

"He did. That's right. But not under subpoena. He did it on his own hook," Cheney said. "He wanted to explain the pardon" issued for ex-president Richard Nixon, who had resigned amid the Watergate scandal.

Copyright © 2006 Agence France Presse


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House Panel Issues First Subpoena Over Firings

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according to this the democrats don't want documents pertaining to the 8 ags that were fired. they already have access to these documents. they want all documents that don't even have anything to do with those 8.

so again i say that congress is on a witch hunt. bush should never give them these extra documents.

“So again I say that congress is on a witch hunt. Bush should never give them these extra documents.”

Congress is TOTALLY within its authority for oversight of Bush and the Executive. You can call it what you want the fact is that Congress has subpoena power and if Bush and Cheney fail to comply they should be held in contempt of Congress and removed from office! Bush and Cheney are NOT above the law and the law allows Congress to look into what and how Bush and Cheney operate.

no one is within their authority to look at anyone becouse they want that person to have done something wrong.


a police officer cannot enter your house becouse he has a gut feeling that you have done something illegal. they have to have some evidence that said person has done something illegal.

what congress is doing is wanting to look at everything just in case the president has done something wrong. which means he hasn't done anything wrong. ie witch hunt

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"what congress is doing is wanting to look at everything just in case the president has done something wrong. which means he hasn't done anything wrong. ie witch hunt"

OVERSIGHT by Congress is not only part of their Constitutional Authority but an essential part of the CHECKS AND BALANCES that is at the heart of our system of government. As usual YOU do not know what you are talking about!

No, as "usual" YOU'RE the one that doesn't have a clue and danielost is dead on the money. You just want the witch hunt to begin so you "might" get some more ammo against Bush. That is after the dems twist everything around. Why don't you just give it up and admit, that you're stuck with Bush until 2008?

And just a clue for the clueless one...the checks and balances come into play AFTER they KNOW something was done wrong. Right now they DO NOT know any such thing. That's why it's a witch hunt. They're looking for "anything" they can twist up and hang around GW's neck.

"Show me" in US law where congress has the right to oversight "EVERY" little thing Bush does.

here i will answer for him

And just a clue for the clueless one...the checks and balances come into play AFTER they KNOW something was done wrong. Right now they DO NOT know any such thing.

First-- Bush failed to follow the FISA law and go through the court set up to approve wire tape. HE did it outside the law-- reason ONE. The reasons given to fire the 8 U.S. Attorneys was untrue and the is evidence that many top Bush officials set up E-mail accounts through the RNC in violation of the HATCH ACT. Two more reasons. There is more then enough justification for Congress to be looking into the Bush administration and Congress has SUBPONIA POWER and if Bush and Cheney defy those subpoenas, they should be removed from office via IMPEACHMENT!

Gene's understanding of the Constitution is impaired, but then what's new?

Congress is not the uber-branch of government, nor is the Executive. Congress has no more business "running" the Executive Branch than the Executive has enacting laws on its own. The concept of Executive Privilege was established by another GW, as in G. Washington, rather awhile back.

Like Gene needs a "last" straw. Hee haw.

Reply By: Daiwa Posted: Friday, June 29, 2007
Gene's understanding of the Constitution is impaired, but then what's new?

Congress is not the uber-branch of government, nor is the Executive. Congress has no more business "running" the Executive Branch than the Executive has enacting laws on its own.


You are incorrect. Congress has subpoena power and Bush and Cheney can not ignore these subpoena’s. The oversight of Congress is well established and just because the GOP controlled Congress did not exercise this responsibility does not mean Congress does not have this power. For Bush and Cheney to be able to keep secret what they are doing would mean they could break any laws and go on without consequence. I for one would cut the funding for both Bush and Cheney to the point where only the most essential functions were funded such as security. No more trips, dinners etc.

poor dictator gene


the president of the united states has all of the rights as ever other citizen.

but what congress is doing is breaking those rights because they want to win an election.


you can not arrest a man just because he might have broken a law. you have to have some kind of proof.

you can not search a person just because he might have broken a law. you have to have some kind of proof.

you can not subpoena the president of the untied states or the vice president just because they might have done something wrong. you have to have some kind of proof.


congress does not have any such proof. that is why they want all of the records, just so they can see if the president might have done something wrong.

you keep spouting about rights, why do you not give the president those same rights.

the democrats are trying to do away with those rights. and since you back them in everything then i must come to the conclusion that you to wish to do away with our rights.

the republicans are trying to do away with some of our rights. this is why i have never backed the home land security that bush has pushed through the congress on several occasions.

oh and i finally looked up oversight here is the first paragraph


Oversight is an implied rather than an enumerated power under the U.S. Constitution. The government's charter does not explicitly grant Congress the authority to conduct inquiries or investigations of the executive, to have access to records or materials held by the executive, or to issue subpoenas for documents or testimony from the executive.


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so even this proves that congress does not have obsolute oversight power. so we find out that you have lied again.

“but what congress is doing is breaking those rights because they want to win an election.”

That is NOT CORRECT. Congress has the right and responsibility to insure our laws are not violated and they have the power to Subpoena both records and individuals to fulfill that responsibility. Bush and Cheney are not ABOVE THE LAW AND must COMPLY OR BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE! If Bush and Cheney have done nothing wrong then the records will show that. However without those records and the ability to question individuals Congress can not learn the facts to determine if the laws it has passed have been followed!

What Bush is saying is that the police and justice staff would be prevented from obtaining evidence. That would make it almost impossible to prosecute any crime if the police and DA’s could NOT obtain the basic information. Congress must BE ABLE TO OBTAIN THE INFORMATION or they can not insure our laws are being followed. There is evidence that Bush may have broken the FISA Statute and we know Bush officials did not tell the truth about why the U.S. Attorneys were fired. There is an indication that politics has a hand in the firing of some of the U.S. Attorneys. The fact that senior Bush Officials had E-Mail systems via the GOP is also an indication that they violated the Hatch Act.

dictator gene the police will be at your house just to make sure you haven't done anything illegal sometime today.

if that is what you want to happen to the president or anyone else then it is only right that they can do it to you too

"if that is what you want to happen to the president or anyone else then it is only right that they can do it to you too."

Congressional Oversight is nothing like you describe. If I had acted like Bush I would expect someone to be asking what I was doing!