Hypocrisy, Hypocrisy, Hypocrisy

Published on December 22, 2007 By COL Gene In Politics

I have placed my Blogs on JoeUser into a file and in that process looked at many of the comments and complaints about the increased spending, welfare, pork and taxes people posted in response to my Blogs. When I took a look at just what parts of the Federal Budget have increased since 2001, the word that is front and center about all the budget and tax complaints is HYPOCRISY!

The largest increase in our spending since 2001 is not on pork or welfare. It is not on the administrative costs or waist. Below are the things that have increased or that are about to show the largest increase:

Interest on the debt. UP $150 Billion; by 2009 will be up $200 Billion per year.

The Iraq War. Up about $140 Billion and this will end when we end the war.

VA Administration. That budget is up 82% and will spend $700 Billion more.

Military Equipment. Over the next 10 years we will need to spend $200 Billion More.

Our problem is not the increased amount we spend on Medicaid or pork projects. It is not what we spend on education. It is not even all the waist in the various government projects. Every one of the above is the DIRECT result of George W. Bush and the GOP controlled Congress since 2001. All this increased spending is because of the financial and tax policies we have adopted and to fight a war that has not made America any safer from an attack by the radical terrorists who hate us. For all those who hate to pay taxes, you will be happy to know you will be paying far more in taxes for decades to come because of GWB. The legacy of President Bush will be the cost of his policies and will continue long into the future. We are still paying the interest on the added debt Reagan created in the 1980’s.

I would like to propose a tax credit for all those Americans who did not vote for George W. Bush. Let’s say a 10% credit if you did not vote for him in 2000 and a 50% credit if you did not vote for him in 2004. Fair is fair. Why should those of us who did not support Bush and his policies be responsible to pay for them? To pay for the proposed tax credits we should add a surtax on all that voted for Bush since they are responsible for the higher taxes because of electing him president!

Comments (Page 4)

danielost

on Dec 27, 2007

your right gene it isn't welfare or any other set of programs.

we have 565 reasons for our spending problems.

COL Gene

on Dec 27, 2007

Reply By: danielostPosted: Thursday, December 27, 2007your right gene it isn't welfare or any other set of programs.we have 565 reasons for our spending problems.

The real reason for the deficit is the Iraq War, increased Interest on the Debt and the VA expense berceuse of the Iraq War. If it were not for those three we would not have an annual budget deficit even with the tax cuts! Bush is responsible for all three of these things.

danielost

on Dec 27, 2007

The real reason for the deficit is

we have 565 reasons for our spending problems.

and we voted them all into office.

COL Gene

on Dec 27, 2007

Reply By: danielostPosted: Thursday, December 27, 2007

The real reason for the deficit is

we have 565 reasons for our spending problems.

and we voted them all into office.

We did not vote for Bush or the members of Congress to borrow 1 out of every 5 dollars that we spend and then pay the interest as the debt piles up. That policy will increase the Federal Budget EACH YEAR by $200 Billion Dollars. I do not recall Bush or any member of Congress when they were running for office and seeking our vote tell us that that their plan. We are fighting a major war and this is the FIRST time we did not provide a SURTAX to pay the added cost of the war! Who does Bush and the GOP think will pay the two Trillion Dollars the Iraq war will cost?

Frogboy

on Dec 27, 2007

First, the $300 Billion for Medicaid is the TOTAL spent by BOTH Federal and the 50 States

The $280 billion is spent by the federal government in 2007. We aren't talking about what it paid in fiscal year 2006.

As usual you do not know what you are talking about. Welfare is not the problem with our spending!!!!!

Ah, so you don't address the evidence, you simply close your eyes and pronounce that I don't know what I'm talking about.

I provide a literal table from the CBO on expenses and you just ignore it. Nice.

danielost

on Dec 27, 2007

I provide a literal table from the CBO on expenses and you just ignore it. Nice.

did you expect anything else from him

danielost

on Dec 27, 2007

We did not vote for Bush or the members of Congress to borrow 1 out of every 5 dollars that we spend and then pay the interest as the debt piles up.

yes we did. we voted them into office because of their promises.

and you want to vote one of the democrats into office for the same reason. and you don't care how much it will cost.

COL Gene

on Dec 28, 2007

Reply By: FrogboyPosted: Thursday, December 27, 2007

First, the $300 Billion for Medicaid is the TOTAL spent by BOTH Federal and the 50 States

The $280 billion is spent by the federal government in 2007. We aren't talking about what it paid in fiscal year 2006.

The Dept of the Treasury shows the 2007 payments from the Federal Budget to the 50 States for MEDICAID was $180.625 Billion NOT $280 Billion. It6 also showed that ALL food assistance including food stamps, Child nutrition and WIC at $52.5 Billion in 2007. YOU ARE A GREAT SPIN AGENT!

Draginol

on Dec 28, 2007

LOL. I provide links to the sources for my data and Gene simply unilaterally declares them wrong.

But my point doesn't require the figures I provided to be correct. Gene's own admissions do it fine:

So Gene is now on record admitting that we spent $180 billion (and rising) on Medicaid and $52 billion (and rising) on food stamps. That's $230 BILLION just on those two welfare programs.

That doesn't include the billions spent on the Erned Income Tax Credit (more welfare), the billions spent on TANF (about $20 billion), etc. etc..

All told you easily have $300 billion (by Gene's own admission) that we spend on welfare.

Which brings us back to the topic at hand: Hypocrisy. Gene has been on a multi-year rampage against deficit spending yet argues for yet more hand outs to people when we're already providing $300 billion+ in hand outs each year.

COL Gene

on Dec 28, 2007

Reply By: DraginolPosted: Friday, December 28, 2007

. I provide links to the sources for my data and Gene simply unilaterally declares them wrong.But my point doesn't require the figures I provided to be correct. Gene's own admissions do it fine:

So Gene is now on record admitting that we spent $180 billion (and rising) on Medicaid and $52 billion (and rising) on food stamps. That's $230 BILLION just on those two welfare programs.That doesn't include the billions spent on the Erned Income Tax Credit (more welfare), the billions spent on TANF (about $20 billion), etc. etc..All told you easily have $300 billion (by Gene's own admission) that we spend on welfare.Which brings us back to the topic at hand: Hypocrisy. Gene has been on a multi-year rampage against deficit spending yet argues for yet more hand outs to people when we're already providing $300 billion+ in hand outs each year.

First, $230 and $20 is $250 not $300 Billion. You said we spend 25% on Welfare which would be about $750 Billion not the $250 Billion that is the reality. Bush will have added $200 Billion in Interest on the debt, two Trillion on the War including the VA and equipment replacement. The problem is not welfare it is Bush and the GOP!

Draginol

on Dec 29, 2007

Yea, $750 billion is just about right

http://www.answers.com/topic/united-states-federal-budget-2007

Outright welfare + Medicaid = ~$700 billion. Technically 23% this year (down from 25% prevoiusly).

At what point are you going to give up on this? You are entitled to your own opinions but not to your own facts.

COL Gene

on Dec 29, 2007

Reply By: DraginolPosted: Saturday, December 29, 2007Yea, $750 billion is just about righthttp://www.answers.com/topic/united-states-federal-budget-2007Outright welfare + Medicaid = ~$700 billion. Technically 23% this year (down from 25% prevoiusly).At what point are you going to give up on this? You are entitled to your own opinions but not to your own facts.

I just documented the number is $250 Billion not $750 Billion.

Draginol

on Dec 30, 2007

I just documented the number is $250 Billion not $750 Billion.

No, you simply claimed it was.

By contrast, I provided direct links to where you can see the information for yourself.

Here, again, is the link that explains it in terms even you should be able to understand:

http://www.answers.com/topic/united-states-federal-budget-2007

danielost

on Dec 30, 2007

I just documented the number is $250 Billion not $750 Billion.
No, you simply claimed it was.

to gene this is the same thing

COL Gene

on Dec 30, 2007

Reply By: danielostPosted: Sunday, December 30, 2007

I just documented the number is $250 Billion not $750 Billion. No, you simply claimed it was.

to gene this is the same thing

THE DEFICIT HAS nothing TO DO WITH WELFARE. THAT IS NOT WHAT HAS INCREASED OVER THE PAST 7 YEARS UNDER BUSH AND THE GOP. I have shown the areas that have increased-- The Iraq war, Interest on the debt, VA expenses due to the Iraq war, Homeland security. All but Homeland security is because of Bush and the GOP policies!

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