Evaluation of the policies of George W. Bush and his Republican conservatives on America.
What does it mean today?
Published on September 26, 2004 By COL Gene In Politics
As usual, the political pondents, as well as the president avoid the real issue about the National Guard service of George W. Bush. The focus is on the CBS documents not the truth of the president's service and his truthfulness about that service today.

First is how Bush got into the Guard. He contends he got in through his own merits. That has been shown to be untrue. The former Speaker of the Texas House, Ben Barns has admitted a friend of the senior Bush asked him to get George W. into the guard. The president's former professor at Harvard, Yoshi Tsurumi, has come forward and told CNN that George W. admitted his father had a family friend get him into the Guard to avoid service in Vietnam. In adition, his flight aptitude test scores have been found and George W. scored in the bottom 25% and would never have been sent to flight school and given a direct commission without the help of Ben Barns. George W. was also placed ahead of 100 other young men that did not have the pull George W. had. Inspite of all this, President Bush doen not come clean as to how he got into the Guard and that is the real significance in 2004.

The same problem exists with the President's fulfillment of his responsibilities to the Guard. Although CBS used documents that were not authentic, the facts were TRUE. Lt. Bush failed to take a required physical and was grounded. The tax payers spent lot of money to train George W. to be a pilot and when he did not obey regulations and lost his ability to fly he DID NOT MEET HIS RESPONSIBILITY. He did not obey Air Force Regulations and it does not matter where he was attending drills. In addition, his commander's secretary stated that Geoerge W. Bush was ordered to take the required physical by LTC Killian. The pay records of Lt. Bush show for five months he did not attend the required monthly drills at ANY LOCATION. His Officer Efficiency Report confirms Lt. Bush did not attend drills. The policy at that time for members of the Guard and Reserve that did not attend drills was for the member to be put on active duty. George W. was allowed to miss drills with no penalty. Today George W. says he met his responsibilities and he received an Honorable Discharge. It is true he some how received an Honorable Discharge but he did not meet his obligations or obey the regulations when he did not get a physical and attend required drill.

If the members of the military today did the same things as Lt Bush, we would not have an effective military. There is nothing more important to a military organization than for the members to obey their orders. In 2004, our Commander -in-Chief is not telling the truth about how he got into the Guard of the fact he did not fulfill his obligations or obey the oath he took when he was commissioned!

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on Sep 26, 2004
She was very sure and I know that your secretary knows more about a boss then any other person at work. The fact is Bush did not take the physical and was grounded. Failure to obey a regulation is the same as failure to obey an order.
on Sep 26, 2004
Just drop it. It's all BS just like the whole Kerry Vietnam fiasco. It's a non-story and it doesn't really matter if Bush served his entire Texas Guard sentance or if Kerry rightfully earned his medals. It's pure BS from both the Left and the Right. So just ignore it and focus on the real issues. We need to bring our thoughts up to what's going on in the present and not what happend or could of happend in their ancient histories.
on Sep 26, 2004
Reply #16 By: COL Gene - 9/26/2004 10:03:38 PM
She was very sure and I know that your secretary knows more about a boss then any other person at work. The fact is Bush did not take the physical and was grounded. Failure to obey a regulation is the same as failure to obey an order.


Number 1 it was 30 years ago. She remembers that well? I bet you don't remember details like that from that long ago!
Number2 I reiterate! Failure to obey a regulation or a lawful order WOULD have resulted at the VERY least an NJP page in his jacket if not a summary court martial!
on Sep 26, 2004
BakerStreet:

Having lived through that period and experienced the effects of Viet Nam first hand (in the form of a brother who served for 2 years in the Central Highlands) I can tell you that this "police action" we undertook was ill concieved and never executed properly. If you have read McNamera's book about how the government lied and lied and lied about what was going on you quickly would see why if you served there you would be very upset by our involvement.

I can honestly say that not one of the people who I knew who served in Viet Nam came back with any sense that what we were doing was right, noble, or patriotic. So, when you say Kerry was dishonorable in what he did, I can tell you he was in the great majority of soldiers in terms of the way they felt.
on Sep 26, 2004
drmiler:

You are either poorly informed about the practices of the Air National Guard or have no understanding of how money goes a long ways to cover for a lot of sins in America. Could W get away with a missed physical? Are you seriously thinking the rules for the poor folk applied to him? Hmmm.....

on Sep 26, 2004


As I said on another blog, it isn't his expression that I find dishonerable. It is the bending of truth, the "movement" to effect the overall will of the people. He didn't just express misgivings, he used the tactics of a propagandist to propel himself politically. They weren't satisfied to organize dissent. They wanted to take matters into their own hands and effect change whether the government willed it or not.

It is a fine line to tread. There were no doubt excesses and abuses. Perhaps the situation there was obviously misrepresented. The fact is, though that that happens in every war. His efforts were not of someone who wanted to educate the public, they were aligned against the government with the intention of robbing them of public support.

Had that behavior been limited to Vietnam, I might be more apt to say it was genuine, but he has continued that kind of treasonous tactic to this day. His "quagmire" rants are irrepairably destructive, and his insult to the current leaders in Iraq are worse. At every opportunity he tries to gut the ability of President to gain support for the effort.

His behavior after returning from Vietnam doesn't cast doubt on his behavior now, it is the other way around. I was a third party in terms of the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, but Kerry's behavior in the last two weeks has done more to cast a shadow on his denials than anything they could have presented.

"So, when you say Kerry was dishonorable in what he did, I can tell you he was in the great majority of soldiers in terms of the way they felt. "


I think that is a vast overstatement. I have known many Vietnam Veterans, and while they were angry that they were often kept from doing their job and many think the war was poorly led, none of them considered it an unjust war. They saw the horrors being perpetrated by the North Vietnamese, and they saw themselves as a hedge against it. People like Kerry, though, spent their time hamstringing the government, making them afraid to commit out of fear of their treasonous dissent.

You gut the power of a President by subverting the public will, making them afraid of every hint of a mistake, and then when they don't do enough, you call them on that too. Kerry's ilk are why we can't deal with terrorists in Iraq once and for all, and have to half-ass it.

If he wins, he will be a vastly unpopular President, if for only the fact of the bed he has made himself regarding Iraq. He'll inherit a war that he himself has poisoned the American people against, and he'll have no will to finish it,and will crawl from it in shame.
on Sep 26, 2004
Well, after reading the article and all the evidence, pro and con, ladies and germs, what say you? Should we immediately press the pause button on the Bush presidency and clear 'things' up? All the 'recent" military action, the tax cuts, the economic recovery this year...the election...shall we just ask the president to finaly see that the democrats(last election's losers), the press that leans sooo left it isn't funny, that they are the ones he ought to be listening to and not those men and women who for the last four years have served him and this nation so gallantly? No offence, but this country is engaged in a war with a vicious and wicked enemy, and our president needs the support of its people as he serves as our supreme leader. 'Support' is the word for today, not 'chickenshit'. Four more years! Four more years! Four more years!
on Sep 27, 2004
Sorry, but Chickenshit is the word for the day
on Sep 27, 2004

Reply #20 By: CrispE - 9/26/2004 10:49:13 PM
drmiler:

You are either poorly informed about the practices of the Air National Guard or have no understanding of how money goes a long ways to cover for a lot of sins in America. Could W get away with a missed physical? Are you seriously thinking the rules for the poor folk applied to him? Hmmm.....


So basically what your saying is that our military is corupt! I find that very hard to swallow that the coruption would cover EVERYONE needed to pull it off. Maybe I don't know how the ANG works but I KNOW how the USN works (6 years) and the military in general! So please don't tell me that I don't know how they work. Besides the fact that you have absolutlely NO proof whatsoever!!
on Sep 27, 2004
I will try and locate the source of the five months of missing drills and the OER. You are correct you can not obtain the actual pay voucher. Every month a member of the Guard or Reserve attend drills, they receive a pay voucher and at the end of the year a retirement point statement. Bush did not receive a pay vouchers for five months during 1972-73 and that was confirmed by his retirement point statement to my recolection. I will try and locate the source. His Officer Efficiency Report (OER) is available at awolbush.com. The statement from Lt. Bush's commander was that he did not observe Lt Bush for the period of the report (April 72-Mar 73) and could not evaluate him. There is no question, Bush did not attend drills for five months. He showed up the month after this five month period for one month and then missed another month.

I was a commander of a Reserve Unit during this period (Reserve and Guard units have the same requirements about member attendence). The policy was that when a member did not atend drills, they were reported to the active component,(in the case of Bush the Air Force) and placed on Active Duty for assignment including Vietnam. Bush was allowed to miss drills for five months without being placed on active duty. This is another example of the special treatment he received. This was during the time he was active with a political campaign which was more important than his committment to the Guard.
on Sep 27, 2004
mmm. Well, back to the "What the hell does this have to do with anything" question...

on Sep 27, 2004
Failure to obey a lawful order or regulation is a violation of Article 95 of the UCMJ. Bush did not obey the regulation to take the physical and was grounded. It is a great question as to why he was not punished. The Air Force also requires a rerport when ever a pilot is grounded. That report can not be located - WHY?
on Sep 27, 2004
drmiler:

So, you can HONESTLY say that in 6 years in the navy you saw no favortism for promotion or placement? Were you permanently on "sleep guard"? I mean, do you actually read what you write BEFORE you post?

You know, it really makes me wonder where you are coming from asking for proof! Even the most Republican of Republicans admits in the case of W that he received favorable placement and treatment. Or is "working on a political campaign" for someone something they assign people "normally" in the National Guard, or for that matter, the Navy?

Why do you think W just says "he served honorably" and nothing else? Why doesn't he say he was "top-notch" or "decorated?" Hmmm.....?
on Sep 27, 2004
For me the only real importance of the Bush Guard service in 2004 is that he continues to lie about how he got into the guard and his contention he met ALL his responsibilities while in the Guard. It is time for him to fess up to his conduct and move on. He will not do that.

As to reelecting him there is a wealth of data on that subject. Read, "Four More For George W?" which documents the impact of the Bush policies. There are many specific references on the data used. Look at Amazon.com and reader comments about the book.
on Sep 27, 2004
Kerry states that he committed acts that were contrary to the Geneva convention while in Vietnam. You can't be excused by saying "I was following orders". Do you really wanna start nitpicking who did what illegally 30 years ago? Maybe we should rethink putting a village burner out there to heal our international wounds. Maybe we should look at Kerry's role in Wintersolder, or his meetings with the North Vietnamese while the war was still going on? Should Kerry release his medical records? Do you want to start the whole purple heart thing again?

No, this is just more steam. If you guys wanna ape Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, that's fine, but as I have said in a couple of recent articles, you are just being hypocrites.
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