Evaluation of the policies of George W. Bush and his Republican conservatives on America.
Published on September 24, 2005 By COL Gene In Politics
Reading many of the JoeUser posts one would think that ALL the poor are by CHOICE. It would be useful to look at the poor and determine the real reasons thay are poor not just- it is their choice or fault.

The reasons would include:

Lack of will
Age
mental or physical capacity
Available jobs
non-living wage jobs
Natural disaster i.e. Katrina

Looking at the reasons WHY would not produce the simple answer - It is the fault of the poor that they are poor. These storms have shown just how many poor there are in this country and how little these people have to meet the BASIC needs of life. We should to help all the poor except for the LACK OF WILL group. Even the people in the LACK OF WILL group need to be encouraged to change their outlook.

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on Sep 25, 2005
The dubya assholes give most of the technical clean-up and repair contracts to their friends, ie Halliburton and Bechtel, withot bid requirements, I might add. The contracts are worth billions of dollars.


WOW, since I own twenty shares of Halliburton in my retirement portfolio, I must be rolling in the money from dividends.....

Nope, I am receiving only a $.45 dividend this quarter. That is a full 10% less then the $.50 I have received for the last five years (up to before Bush came to office). Link I am part owner of Halliburton, and with inflation for the last five years, now I'm mad because I'm receiving less from all those no bid contracts. I think I'm going to have to sell my stock because I know other companies that make more money. I think I will buy ITT stock (you know the company contracted to issue out the welfare checks in over 35 states), because they have dividends of $.75.
on Sep 25, 2005
I am part owner of Halliburton,


You should be so proud. You're supporting a war profiteer. Nice.
on Sep 25, 2005
pictoratus

What do tell the millions of children that are born to parents that do not follow your advice? DIE?
on Sep 25, 2005
For Dabe and the other rabid anti-no-bid contract types, how about turning around and explaining then why the Federal government, at almost all levels, shouldn't be replaced by the lowest bidder for all work they do?

Oh, you don't want to work for lowest bidders? They underpay because they underbid and didn't factor in enough overhead to pay decent benefits without skimming away profits from the skimmers at the tops of the companies, no matter how small or how large?

But seriously, we keep hearing screams from the government worker types when President Bush or others start talking about making those people compete for those jobs and justify why they should be federal workers, rather than contractors. We heard it about the TSA, we've heard it about DoD, and we'll hear it about others. Making civil service types justify why they should be government, rather than contract workers isn't fair. The money gets cut in one pot, but added to another, it just rewards the Haliburtons and the Bechtels and the IBMs and other companies of the world, right?

The hypocrisy is thick enough to get stuck in.

Dabe, you also btw support a war profiteer - or does the name Michael Moore (or, hell, for that matter C.O.L. Gene himself, he the author of the Bush bashing book series, not ring a bell for you?) Are you so very proud of yourself. How about taking money from scum like Soros? Or do you believe his money is so clean once it gets into the hands of people at the top of the DNC?

How about Jesse Jackson, and the millions that have poured into his hands, where is the outrage because that money hasn't helped the poor?
on Sep 25, 2005
My book contains the documented results of the Bush policies. The fact that most would look at the results of Bush and his policies and conclude they are negative is the source of the Bush Bashing. Ever hear don't shoot the messenger.
on Sep 25, 2005
My point has nothing to do with the workers who may work for Bechtel or Halliburton, and/or any of their subcontractors. My point is that by getting the no-bid contracts


So dabe....have you "ANY" idea just how long a bidding process takes? I don't think you do. Thing is we DON'T have time to go though all that rigmarole. New Orleans needs to be back up and running ASAP! There are people that would like to come home and can't, because the city is not ready yet for occupation. Had this been put up for bid no progress at all would have been made yet. Get over your blind hatred of all things that are even remotely connected to the current administration. The 2 companies you mention just happen to be the best companies with enough resources available to do the job quickly and efficiently.
on Sep 25, 2005
Dabe, you also btw support a war profiteer - or does the name Michael Moore (or, hell, for that matter C.O.L. Gene himself, he the author of the Bush bashing book series, not ring a bell for you?) Are you so very proud of yourself. How about taking money from scum like Soros? Or do you believe his money is so clean once it gets into the hands of people at the top of the DNC?


Talk about stupid dumbass moronic righty spin, boy oh boy this maybe takes the cake.
on Sep 25, 2005
You should be so proud. You're supporting a war profiteer. Nice.


Webster's II:

Prof-i-teer: One who makes excessive profits on commodities in short supply.

Notice the word "Excessive". $.45 is not excessive. My largest stock holding is in Granite Construction, a companies that builds infrastructor projects for the Government. I got $.86 last quarter Link

As for how much Halliburton is claimed to be making, it appears that there are many other companies making much more money that I could profiteer off of.

If I was you, I would check your retirment funds too. Unless you have what is a Green fund, you will find big tabacco, and defense related stock everywhere.

You still have to show me where I'm making more money from war progiteering with Halliburton, after the war started from these no-bid contracts. Because my Dividends are not showing it. They are lower now then before the war.
on Sep 25, 2005
It is true, there is no time to bid the initial recovery work. However, Halliburton has overbilled the governmnt in the past and needs to be watched very carefully.
on Sep 25, 2005
However, Halliburton has overbilled the governmnt in the past and needs to be watched very carefully.


On that, I'd agree wholeheartedly. Audit the bejeezus out of anyone that is doing Katrina and Rita recovery work, and make sure that you are getting value for the money that has been paid out. If anyone is caught gouging in any way, or embezzling in any way, throw the book at them, and make the fine so large that it'll take three lifetimes to pay off.
on Sep 25, 2005
It is true, there is no time to bid the initial recovery work. However, Halliburton has over billed the government in the past and needs to be watched very carefully.


God, you have NO IDEA how much it pains me to say this. But I got to agree with Col. How you like that dabe? Me and the COL agreeing against you.
on Sep 26, 2005
I am glad we agree on this issue.
on Sep 26, 2005
How you like that dabe? Me and the COL agreeing against you.


I could give a rat's ass
on Sep 26, 2005
You should be so proud. You're supporting a war profiteer. Nice.


Do you know John Edwards was buying and selling stocks in defense and weapons companies before the war? So if you voted for him then you supported a war profiteer also.
on Sep 26, 2005
About 1,800 people who were depressed or had muscle strains avoided work requirements in the state's welfare program last year because Massachusetts considered them disabled, even though their maladies may have been easily treated, according to state statistics and interviews with specialists.

The fate of disabled welfare recipients is a key element in an ongoing debate on Beacon Hill, as Governor Mitt Romney urges state lawmakers to adopt tougher federal disability standards that would force thousands of people considered disabled under current state standards to go to work.

Some disability advocates say Romney is on the right track in forcing recipients with disabilities into the workforc


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