CARNAGE IN IRAQ

Published on July 10, 2006 By COL Gene In Politics

This weekend should convince anyone that Iraq is falling into Civil War. For eight hours bands of masked Shiite gunman rampaged through Baghdad killing 41Sunnis. Neither the new police nor military we have been training were able to stop this violence. After this rampage there were two bombings close to a Shiite Mosque killed another 17 and wounded 38 more in a reprisal for the earlier attacks. Even the Iraqi Prime Minister said after these attacks that the nation stood, "in front of a dangerous precipice".

Bush told us all we needed was a new government, and then we needed the major government officials to be appointed for the violence to be brought under control. NOTHING is helping and anyone that believes Iraq will become a stable democracy is on drugs!

Comments (Page 1)

Island Dog

on Jul 10, 2006

This weekend should convince anyone that Iraq is falling into Civil War.

It's not a civil war col. The only people hoping for a civil war are you, liberals, and the media. Anyways col, what do you care? If it was up to you we would leave immediately and the violence would really get bad, and all chances for a stable democracy would be gone.

You are not different than the media in this country. There is no point to your blogs except to complain and celebrate terrorism. In one post you call them "stinking Iraqis", and then in another you complain that they are being killed, and in another post you advocate cutting and running and leaving the Iraqis to defend themselves. Why do you bother posting? Nobody here cares what you think, and your posts are so one-sided it isn't even funny anymore.

COL Gene

on Jul 10, 2006

IslandDog

You have lost your mind. The violence that took place in Baghdad yesterday was NOT created by the media. It is escalating sectarian violence that we have enabled to take place.

Island Dog

on Jul 10, 2006

You have lost your mind. The violence that took place in Baghdad yesterday was NOT created by the media. It is escalating sectarian violence that we have enabled to take place.

I didn't say it was created by the media. I said you and the media are hoping for a civil war. Both of you have been saying it for years and it hasn't come true. Just your like bs draft stories.

If you anything about Iraq you would know that this kind of violence was taking place when Saddam was still in power. Pro-Saddam and anti-Saddam groups collided all the time. This is nothing new except now the media and you blame Bush for it. What sad individuals all of you are.

COL Gene

on Jul 10, 2006

Saying it will take place and hoping for a Civil War are VEEY DIFFERENT. I NEVER said I hope for any such thing. I just look at the events and accept what is taking place. I am not in denial like you, Bush and some others on this Blog Site.

Yes the violence was taking place when Saddam was in power. The reason Bush gave for our invasion was to STOP that VIOLANCE!

Island Dog

on Jul 10, 2006

You are claiming a civil war as fact, and it's not. That'as how you operate here, factless allegiations and assumptions. Of course you are in denial. How many posts about good news from Iraq do you ignore? How many times have you abandoned your posts about taxes and Iraq because you were getting nailed to the wall and being proved wrong?

Yes the violence was taking place when Saddam was in power. The reason Bush gave for our invasion was to STOP that VIOLANCE!

You really have no idea which way you are facing do you? The reason Bush gave for the invasion and in which the Congress (including democrats) was Saddams failure to comply and his WMD programs (which democrats told us was a threat). Now you are just making things up.

The violence was going on before we invaded but you still blame Bush for it. You are just crazy. Seek help for your obsession with Bush and get over it.

COL Gene

on Jul 10, 2006

The reason Bush FIRST gave was because Saddam posed such a danger to the United States we could not wait to invade Iraq. The reasons changed to non compliance with
U N Resolutions, Saddam was an evil Dictator and the most current reason was to give the Iraqi People the chance to elect a government and hope the SPREADING DEMOCRACY would make us safer.

When Saddam was in Power he was the source of violence. When we deposed him and his government we allowed the internal sectarian factions and the foreign elements to conduct the violence. The violence is the same no matter WHO initiates it!

I do not abandon anything. I make my points and watch you all ignore the facts to support the failed policies we are following under Bush and the GOP in Congress!

singrdave

on Jul 10, 2006

Each of those reasons are true.

When Saddam was in Power he was the source of violence.

Still true.

NOTHING is helping and anyone that believes Iraq will become a stable democracy is on drugs!

Your opinion. My opinion says otherwise.

Island Dog

on Jul 10, 2006

The reason was Saddam was a danger (which democrats agreed) and his WMD programs based upon his non-compliance with U.N. resolutions. Spin in whatever way you want, you were wrong.

When Saddam was in Power he was the source of violence. When we deposed him and his government we allowed the internal sectarian factions and the foreign elements to conduct the violence. The violence is the same no matter WHO initiates it!

And I will ask again col. What do you care? You would leave the Iraqi people alone right now and let them all be killed by terrorists? So why are you acting now like you care so much. Hypocrisy I say.

Anyways, Saddam was not he source of all the violence. Like I told you before sectarian violence was in Iraq way before Saddam was removed. These factions were fighting among each other for decades. Only you could blame Bush for it. Sad.

I do not abandon anything. I make my points and watch you all ignore the facts to support the failed policies we are following under Bush and the GOP in Congress!

Of course you do col. I could direct you to all your threads that people like myself that prove your ridiculous accusations wrong, and you simply abandon the post and start another Bush bash thread to get away from it.

Yes col, you make points, and that's it. Please do not EVER accuse anyone else here of avoiding FACTS because you take the lead there. How many facts have you completely ignored when posted to you? Answer that question col.

DJBandit

on Jul 10, 2006

Col really does take that old saying "repetition is the key to success" very seriously. Somehow he feels that if he says the same crap enough times that sooner or later we will get it. That's more or less the same thing most people in mental hospitals do. Hmmm. I know there are PC's with internet in prison, what about mental hospitals? Are crazy people allowed to us PC's? After all most are not there cause they stupid.

Col

Grow up already. Hows about you label something once it actually happens rather than before. Talk about a true American, your ideal is that everyone is guilty till proven innocent. What a sad existance your family has simply cause they related to you. I feel for them.

COL Gene

on Jul 10, 2006

IslandDog

I do not care what the Iraqi People do but I do not want OUR troops and OUR tax dollars being spent on Iraq. It is the responsibility of Iraq to run their country not the U S.

Singrdave

Saddam was NEVER a threat to this country. The other reasons were developed by Bush AFTER we invaded.

The situation in Iraq is in our face EVERY day. It has NOTHING to do with guilt or innocence. It is the sectarian violence that has developed since we removed Saddam and failed to provide the force levels NEEDED to prevent the sectarian violence from developing. The terrorists in Iraq are Iraqi's fighting Iraqi’s. That is a CIVIL WAR. We need to get out NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Daiwa

on Jul 10, 2006

Bush told us all we needed was a new government, and then we needed the major government officials to be appointed for the violence to be brought under control.

You lying SOS. He never said any such thing - only that those were necessary precursors to stability. He also said explicitly that they would not by themselves bring an end to the violence. But then, why would you choose now to get your facts straight?

There is no "civil war" - unless the random senseless murder of civilians constitutes such a war, which would give the phrase a new definition. Civil war is just a code phrase used by American chickenshits and the anti-American media in their ongoing effort to make sure America is seen as the loser in operation Iraqi Freedom, no matter how successful it is. But you keep it up, Gene. It's what you live for.

COL Gene

on Jul 10, 2006

The violence in Iraq is not being resolved and without security there will be no stability. Bush has been telling us for over three YEARS that things are getting better WHICH IS A LIE!!!!!

He first said we needed the elections. Then it was the formation of the new government. Then it was the appointment of the Prime Minister, Interior director and defense director. All these things have taken place and the violence continues. IT IS TIME FOR U S TO LEAVE. We are NOT helping establish stability.

COL Gene

on Jul 10, 2006

Today another 15 were killed in Iraq. It NEVER ENDS!

Good Point

on Jul 10, 2006

There is no "civil war" - unless the random senseless murder of civilians constitutes such a war, which would give the phrase a new definition.

It's not random, senseless murder that the central government is powerless to control. That would be anarchy. This is targeted sectarian killings and ethnic cleansing of mixed Sunni-Shiite areas. Sunnis are slaughtered because they are Sunnis, and Shiites are targeted because they are Shiites. It's similar to Lebanon in the 80's with Hezbollah and the Christian Militias

Island Dog

on Jul 10, 2006

Today another 15 were killed in Iraq. It NEVER ENDS!

How many people were killed in violent crime in the U.S. today col? And I ask again, what do you care?

Keep it up col, I'm sure the terrorists appreciate the continued support from you.

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