Whats more disturbing is people are content and have no problem losing a war.  It's sad really.

 

Looks like the English understand the Iraq War is no place to be:

If you are going to make a statement, why don't you post the full article.  It says nothing about cutting and running.

Britain has handed over to Iraqi forces control of Muthanna and Dhi Qar, two of the four southern provinces it took responsibility for after the U.S.-led invasion in 2003. Maysan province is due to meet the conditions for handover in January.

 

 

ppl are so ready to accept defeat in a war because of the "Peace at all Cost" idea....

It is looked upon that if we pull out, there will all of a sudden be peace. And the Muslim Extremists will love us and shower flowers at our feet....

The sad part, the exact opposite will happen, as we, America, will be looked upon as weak, which will embolden the terrorists even more. Just like they look at Black Hawk Down in that way, just like they took our response to all the other attacks that have happened in the past 2 decades.

What ppl do not seem to understand, or refuse to understand....to bring these extremists to their knees, we need to use force....brute force....devastating force. But how can America do that when ppl like Col are decrying when civilians die every day.

Me personally, I refuse to have the war run via 10 minute increments. Col says that we have been there longer than we were in WW2. But, I ask, have we lost as many men as we did in WW2? And, technically, we are still there in Europe, how many years AFTER WW2?

We are fighting the war in Iraq in the wrong way. I believe total and brute force is required, instead of trying to be so damned politically correct so we don't offend anyone. If we are in war....then we BRING IT....put an end to the war, by eliminating those that oppose us. And then, if ppl like Col want to complain that we are fighting the war and hurting ppl (like I am sure he would, just to jab at Bush), let them spit on the soldiers returning and show their true colors (like I am sure they would, because then all the soldiers would be "war criminals"....hey, maybe Col and the rest could use that as a political springboard to run for President in 20 years or so).

It is never answered what will happen if we picked up and pulled out. That is sorta, glossed over....pushed to the back of the closet. If we pulled out, Iraq WOULD spiral into civil war....and many many more Iraqis would die. Dennis Miller (not sure if he was being serious or not) said, that if we form an exit strategy and pull out now, we might as well start working on another entrance strategy, because we will be RIGHT BACK THERE AGAIN dealing with the same problem.

Why not fix the problem right now? Why not take care of the monster right now, instead of pushing the monster back into the closet? I think Muslim Extremist have had enough of running wild in the World...time to put it to an end with a bullet to the head. Call it what you want...harsh, sadistic, cruel....I call it mercy killing for the sake of the "good" Muslims that Cacto and the rest defend.....cut off the part of the body that festers, to save the part that appears to be working ok....

What ppl do not seem to understand, or refuse to understand....to bring these extremists to their knees, we need to use force....brute force....devastating force. But how can America do that when ppl like Col are decrying when civilians die every day.

Exactly.

IsalandDog

The article says the three countries intend to remove their troops from Iraq. That is what George calls CUT and RUN!

I am not happy with us going into Iraq nor the failure that we face. However, I see NO real chance for the situation to improve and very REAL chance for it getting worse. Add the constant loss of American lives and the adverse impact on our military from the prolonged deployment-- IT IS TIME TO GET OUT and allow the Iraqis to defend their country.

Mino

The time for brute force was when Saddam fell to prevent the sectarian and foreign elements from organizing into what we see today. At this point to control the violence in Iraq would require massive troop increases WE DO NOT HAVE. In addition, some of our forces have been sent 3 and now 4 times to Iraq. The new Commandant of the Marine Corps has said increased deployment of the Marines is not possible without causing major damage to the Corps. The Guard and Reserve is in the same situation and most of the Active Army is not much better off. The Army C of S refused to sign off on the 2007 budget because he said there is not sufficient funding to operate the Army in 2007 with the budget Bush and the Congress is considering. Most of the equipment for the ground components and the Guard and Reserve must be replaced and there has not been funding approved for this massive additional expenditure. That equipment will have to be replaced even if we ended our occupation in Iraq NOW!

NOITHING about the Iraq War has been a success. EVERY claim by Bush and Cheney before we invaded Iraq has proven to totally wrong. In war things do not always go as planned. However, when EVERYTHING goes WRONG, the LEADERSHIP is the cause. If the war in Europe had gone the way Iraq has gone, do you believe FDR and IKE would have remained in power? HELL NO!!!

ALL who voted for GWB SCREWED UP BIG TIME! Americans that supported Bush can not admit the made a mistake. This is the same character FLAW that Bush and Cheney have shown.

So much for the Baker commission:

Bush Says U.S. Won't Pull Out of Iraq
By DEB RIECHMANN (Associated Press Writer)
From Associated Press
November 28, 2006 9:55 AM EST

RIGA, Latvia - President Bush, under pressure to change direction in Iraq, said Tuesday he will not be persuaded by any calls to withdraw American troops before the country is stabilized.

"There's one thing I'm not going to do, I'm not going to pull our troops off the battlefield before the mission is complete," he said in a speech setting the stage for high-stakes meetings with the Iraqi prime minister later this week. "We can accept nothing less than victory for our children and our grandchildren."


VICTORY is WHAT? Bush is so far out of it there is NO chance to end this disaster!

Iraq Extends State of Emergency
By BASSEM MROUE (Associated Press Writer)
From Associated Press
November 28, 2006 10:23 AM EST
BAGHDAD, Iraq - Parliament voted unanimously Tuesday to extend Iraq's state of emergency for 30 more days, and suspected Sunni insurgents set off bombs that killed eight people and wounded 40 across the country.

Lawmakers decided to continue the state of emergency that allows for a nighttime curfew and gives the government extra powers to make arrests without warrants and launch police and military operations.

Iraq Extends State of Emergency By BASSEM MROUE (Associated Press Writer) From Associated Press November 28, 2006 10:23 AM EST BAGHDAD, Iraq - Parliament voted unanimously Tuesday to extend Iraq's state of emergency for 30 more days, and suspected Sunni insurgents set off bombs that killed eight people and wounded 40 across the country. Lawmakers decided to continue the state of emergency that allows for a nighttime curfew and gives the government extra powers to make arrests without warrants and launch police and military operations.

And just "why" should you care? It's not like it's happening here at home. The US is also "not" doing it, the current Iraqi government is.

drmiler

It shows that the Bush policy in Iraq is a total failure and the continued occupation by American Forces is a error!

The article says the three countries intend to remove their troops from Iraq. That is what George calls CUT and RUN!

You obviously don't understand what cut and run is. 

drmiler It shows that the Bush policy in Iraq is a total failure and the continued occupation by American Forces is a error!

Sorry but your view on this is that of a moron. Bushes policies have NOTHING to do with the IRAQI'S governmental decisions!

IslandDog

I do understand that when a plan does not work you do not just continue with what is not working!

drmiler

The Iraqi government is a direct result of the Bush Invasion and policy. That government is a failure. Today with the pull out of al Sadar, Maliki no longer is in control and Bush is meeting with a non- leader of Iraq. The "Unity Government" that Bush Touts as the result of his policy is a failure and can not function much less stop the ever increasing violence! You and Bush are the MORONS!!!!

I do understand that when a plan does not work you do not just continue with what is not working!

And you just don't walk out in the middle of it either col. 

 

Today with the pull out of al Sadar, Maliki no longer is in control and Bush is meeting with a non- leader of Iraq.

Exaggerating as usual col.

IslandDog

Without a majority, Maliki has NO POWER.

The meeting was postponed and I wonder if it will take place. If Maliki meets with Bush he looses. If he does not meet with Bush he looses.

Looks like two losers to me!

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IslandDog

Without a majority, Maliki has NO POWER.

The meeting was postponed and I wonder if it will take place. If Maliki meets with Bush he looses. If he does not meet with Bush he looses.

Looks like two losers to me!

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IslandDog Without a majority, Maliki has NO POWER. The meeting was postponed and I wonder if it will take place. If Maliki meets with Bush he looses. If he does not meet with Bush he looses. Looks like two losers to me!

Looks like "YOU'RE" the looser fool. The Iraqi's are the ones who called off the meeting, not us!