Evaluation of the policies of George W. Bush and his Republican conservatives on America.



Bush helped form the new government in Lebanon as one of his new democracies that was to help stabilize the Moslem World. That new government was weak from the outset and Hezbollah was able to operate in the Sothern section of the country. That militant group is the avowed enemy of both Israel and the United States.

When the two Israeli soldiers were captured by Hezbollah, Israel invaded Lebanon and destroyed much of southern Lebanon. In addition to the destruction of the buildings and killing and displaced many Lebanese people, the Israeli invasion further weakened the Lebanese government. In addition, Hezbollah became more popular with many of the people of Lebanon.

Now fighting has broken out in Lebanon and there is a very real possibility that the government Bush said was so important could fall and further enhance to power of Hezbollah in Lebanon. That is a Lose, Lose, Lose outcome of the policy we have followed.

Bush should have told Israel they will not be allowed to invade Lebanon over the two Israeli Soldiers. We could have worked behind the screen to help free the two Israeli soldiers, who I believe are STILL BEING HELD captive.

What Bush did was allow Israel to destroy sections of Lebanon which set the stage for the fighting today in Lebanon. Every single aspect of the conflicts in the Middle-East and greater Moslem world has gotten worse since Bush took office. Here is a short list of the areas that have gotten worse over the past 6 years:

Development of a nuclear Iran
Civil war and instability in Iraq.
Fighting in Lebanon
Israeli/Palestinian conflict- Gaza and West Bank
Afghanistan and the reemergence of Al Qaeda and the Taliban
Relationship with Syria

There were problems before Bush became president in the above conflicts but never has every conflict turned as negative as it has during the past 6 years! The Bush policy in this region has been a TOTAL failure!

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on Jan 25, 2007
Is there anything you don't blame Bush for?
on Jan 25, 2007
Only those things that his policy has caused or allowed to become worse. Every one of these issues has gotten worse under the Foreign Policy we have been following:

Development of a nuclear Iran
Civil war and instability in Iraq.
Fighting in Lebanon
Israeli/Palestinian conflict- Gaza and West Bank
Afghanistan and the reemergence of Al Qaeda and the Taliban
Relationship with Syria
on Jan 25, 2007
Most of your list is pure junk.  We have debunked most of htis before when you wrote this SAME ARTICLE months ago.  It's all blame Bush for everything in the world that was going on before him.  If it gets worse, it's somehow his fault, not the fault of the wackos in Iran or Syria.  How ridiculous.
on Jan 26, 2007
IslandDog

Are you saying that Iran is not moving forward with nuclear weapons? That is not what Bush says!

Are you saying there is no sectarian fighting in Iraq and that the country is unstable? That is not what Bush says!

Are you saying there is no fighting in Lebanon? Turn on you TV or read the Newspaper!

Are you saying the Israeli’s and Palestinian conflict has not gotten worse? That is not what Bush Says!

Are you saying the situation in Afghanistan in not getting worse? Why is Bush asking for another $10 Billion to fight in Afghanistan and why is Bush asking for MORE NATO Forces?

Are you saying we have an improved relationship with Syria? That is not what Bush is saying!

There I have debunked you last post. Every area I listed is JUST I AS I HAVE SAID.

You are a STUPID IGNORANT IDIOT!
on Jan 26, 2007
You are a STUPID IGNORANT IDIOT!


As usual col you can do nothing but toss a personal insult at me. 


Let me just run through a couple of your accusations.


Are you saying the Israeli’s and Palestinian conflict has not gotten worse? That is not what Bush Says!


The Israeli / so-called palenstinians conflict is much more complex than just blaming Bush.  Bush was the President who wouldn't negotiate with their terrorist leader Arafat.  I didn't see him being invited to stay at the White House or pampered like you lefties like us to do. 

Are you saying the situation in Afghanistan in not getting worse? Why is Bush asking for another $10 Billion to fight in Afghanistan and why is Bush asking for MORE NATO Forces?


If you would read other articles that give another point of view aside from the DailyKos and the NYT then you will see the articles that have been posted about the stability and progress that has been made in Afghanistan.  YOU only seem to point out the usual offensive by whats left of the taliban.  Keep avoiding the other side and keep blaming Bush. 

Keep grasping at every little straw you can.  Bush is not going anywhere col.  There is absolutely nothing that you will ever do that will get him out of office.  Get over your obesession with him.

on Jan 26, 2007
Bush did fail with Lebanon. Instead of Condi Rice pushing for an end to Israel's push into Lebanon they should have let them kill as many Hezbollah fighters as possible. Obviously what they call "peace" isn't if you watch the news.

So now instead of Hezbollah fighters being killed, Hezbollah is destabilizing the whole nation. I'm betting that the Col wouldn't have praised us for sitting back and allowing the job to get done, though. I'm still chickling over the line:

"Bush should have told Israel they will not be allowed to invade Lebanon over the two Israeli Soldiers."


We should tell Hezbollah that they aren't allowed to destabilize Lebanon. Heck, we should tell Lebanon to stop treating them like a political party. Heck, let's just tell everyone to get their shit together. That was easy...

on Jan 26, 2007
Are you saying that Iran is not moving forward with nuclear weapons? That is not what Bush says!


You are wrong, Iraq said they were not working towards nuclear weapons so does Iran How can you believe these false reports designed by Mr. Bush to attack the innocent people of Iran.
Oh wait both nations said they wanted nuclear weapons to use against us and our friends.

Are you saying there is no sectarian fighting in Iraq and that the country is unstable? That is not what Bush says!


You are so right on this issue col. Just becaue the people captured and killed are not from the country of Iraq does not mean there is no civil war. So what if the funding for the fighting comes from Iran that has openly stated they want to destableize Iraq or that the locals are incited by Iranian agents that Iran justly complaines we are undiplomatically killing and arresting.

Are you saying there is no fighting in Lebanon? Turn on you TV or read the Newspaper!


Again you are correct there is fghting in Lebanon. Openly funded by Iran and supported by Syria. Notice that it is not funded by Lebanon or its people. Who is doing this fighting? Israel? Nope. Terrorist? Yup. Maybe this has to do with that fake war on terror. Maybe we should get involved? Oh wait! Israel and Lebanon are working together to fight the terrorist and maybe just maybe America is helping.

Are you saying the Israeli’s and Palestinian conflict has not gotten worse? That is not what Bush Says!


I look at it this way. The terrorist don't have the ability to mess around in Israel because they no longer have a base of operation within the country which is why they need Lebanon. Maybe we should look into that.

Are you saying we have an improved relationship with Syria? That is not what Bush is saying!


Syria was going our way until Iran stepped in to help out. Maybe we should do something about that peace loving nation of Iran. They seem to be kicking up dust all over the area and diplomacy that everyone was screaming we should use instead of troops does not seem to work. Oh wait maybe that trip tha the Vice-president took to Saudi Arabia and the price of oil dropped like a rock which will cut off funds to Iran which is spending more than it makes now might help. Too bad the President is not doing anything about any of the problems of the Middle East.

There I have debunked you last post. Every area I listed is JUST I AS I HAVE SAID.

You are a STUPID IGNORANT IDIOT!


Though this was not directed to me I could not let you get away with your distortion. As a political Hack you do a Great Job.
on Jan 28, 2007
Paladin 77

You need to look the meaning of Debunked. You have not disproven ANYTHING I have said.
on Jan 28, 2007
You need to look the meaning of Debunked. You have not disproven ANYTHING I have said.


You need to learn to read things in context. I was quoting YOU! Don’t you remember your own words? No wonder it is so hard for you to understand what people write when you argue with yourself and lose. You seem to believe that Mr. Bush is responsible for everyting and the people causing the trouble are innocent.
on Jan 28, 2007
Paladin 77

You need to look the meaning of Debunked. You have not disproven ANYTHING I have said.


Hey yo-yo.....YOU need to go reread reply #4 which is your OWN reply. The "only" failure around here is YOU!
on Jan 29, 2007
Everything I said in this post is correct. Again you need to look at the meaning of debunked:

Are you saying that Iran is not moving forward with nuclear weapons? That is not what Bush says!

Are you saying there is no sectarian fighting in Iraq and that the country is unstable? That is not what Bush says!

Are you saying there is no fighting in Lebanon? Turn on you TV or read the Newspaper!

Are you saying the Israeli’s and Palestinian conflict has not gotten worse? That is not what Bush Says!

Are you saying the situation in Afghanistan in not getting worse? Why is Bush asking for another $10 Billion to fight in Afghanistan and why is Bush asking for MORE NATO Forces?

Are you saying we have an improved relationship with Syria? That is not what Bush is saying!

Every issue I raised is the way it is on the ground. Now if you are like Cheney and simply refuse to look at the facts, then you make statements like you have made.

on Jan 29, 2007
Everything I said in this post is correct. Again you need to look at the meaning of debunked:

Are you saying that Iran is not moving forward with nuclear weapons? That is not what Bush says!

Are you saying there is no sectarian fighting in Iraq and that the country is unstable? That is not what Bush says!

Are you saying there is no fighting in Lebanon? Turn on you TV or read the Newspaper!

Are you saying the Israeli’s and Palestinian conflict has not gotten worse? That is not what Bush Says!

Are you saying the situation in Afghanistan in not getting worse? Why is Bush asking for another $10 Billion to fight in Afghanistan and why is Bush asking for MORE NATO Forces?

Are you saying we have an improved relationship with Syria? That is not what Bush is saying!

Every issue I raised is the way it is on the ground. Now if you are like Cheney and simply refuse to look at the facts, then you make statements like you have made.


NO,YOU need to read what debunked means. You were the one accusing someone else you thought were debunking your myth's. When truth be told it was the other way around. Let me "show" you:

#4 by COL Gene

Fri, January 26, 2007 08:32 AM
IslandDog

Are you saying that Iran is not moving forward with nuclear weapons? That is not what Bush says!

Are you saying there is no sectarian fighting in Iraq and that the country is unstable? That is not what Bush says!

Are you saying there is no fighting in Lebanon? Turn on you TV or read the Newspaper!

Are you saying the Israeli’s and Palestinian conflict has not gotten worse? That is not what Bush Says!

Are you saying the situation in Afghanistan in not getting worse? Why is Bush asking for another $10 Billion to fight in Afghanistan and why is Bush asking for MORE NATO Forces?

Are you saying we have an improved relationship with Syria? That is not what Bush is saying!

There I have debunked you last post. Every area I listed is JUST I AS I HAVE SAID.

You are a STUPID IGNORANT IDIOT!


Again the only idiot is you!
on Jan 29, 2007
Drmiler

Webster defines Debunk as “to expose the sham pretensions of"

For you to have debunked my statements you need to show that:

Iran is NOT seeking Nuclear weapons

Iraq is stable and the violence is ending

There has not been fighting in Lebanon

That we are moving closer to peace between Israel and the Palestinians

That the fighting in Afghanistan is not getting worse

That we are having better relations with Syria.


Since you have not been able to show ANY of the above is true YOU have not debunked ANYTHING.


on Jan 29, 2007
Yep, the entire world was a happy, peaceful place prior to Bush being elected. I'll be glad when he's out of office so my back will stop hurting too.
on Jan 29, 2007
Ok if you say so.

Iran is NOT seeking Nuclear weapons


Mr. Bush has been fighting Iran getting nuclear weapons but everyone you support wants to ignore that for North Korea and Iraq. When Iraq became calm I will get to that later. It became All Iran all the time. Before the war started Mr. Bush listed three countries as an axis of evil. Iran was one of them. The Liberal Democrats have been fighting the President every step of the way in this war doing stupid things that looked smart for the short term but did serious damage in the long term. Just like Vietnam our people are dying over there in a war that has been fought and won and now being lost for political gain.

Iraq is stable and the violence is ending


Two thirds of the nation of Iraq is stable. The only area that is in trouble is the area where there is huge support from your friend Iran. There are Iranian troops in Iraq to keep the fighing going when the war ended and cause the most unrest as possible, butt loads of money from Iran to keep the war going. This is no longer a war with Iraq as both sides agree that the war is over. What you see now is the war on terror, one that we would be fighing closer to home if we were not in Iraq. Iran is going broke because it improrts gas and the price of gas is going up even as the price of oil is going down. This has been suggested as the stratagy of Mr. Bush and his oil friends. It cost 9 times what Saudi spends to pull oil out of the ground and the only three companies that sell better cheaper equipment is not selling it to Iran. This gives Iran a choice of gaining nuclear weapons at the cost of civil unrest or feeding its people and not buying nuclear technology. As the diplomatic efforts continue that you seem to ignore or fail to see because of your hate you can see that there is a chance we will win not only in Iraq, but in Iran as well.

There has not been fighting in Lebanon


Yes, there is fighting in Lebanon, how is that our Presidents fault? Everyone knows that it is your friend Iran that funds the terrorist and supports them in every way. We squeeze Iran and this was how they pushed back because Iraq is not looking as good to them as you seem to think. If it were why did they need to kick up dust in Israel?

That we are moving closer to peace between Israel and the Palestinians


This is true as well. If you notice in the news today that the two factions in "Palestine" came to a cease fire in order to fight Israel because they were killing each other for weeks and thinning their ranks. It is a civil war and as you have said many times that we should not get involved in civil wars. Israel is happy, we are happy and there are less terrorist to bother both of us. They finally got their crap together and now they have started attacking Israel again. Who is funding this war? Iran says they are so once again your friendly peace loving Iran is involved again in unrest. Once again Mr. Bush is working on the problem let him do his job.

That the fighting in Afghanistan is not getting worse


I know that you were only a colonel in the Army so you can't do much without a good NCO to point out little things like in that part of the world wars are fought during the spring and summer seasons and they go into hiding in the fall and winter. Not knowing this or bothering to investigate your sources you failed to notice that every year they scream that fighting is getting worse because all winter long there were only a few attacks and now they are coming out swinging. Next year you will say the same thing because next winter they will slow down, regroup, rearm, and work out new tactics. It is just that fewer and fewer people will be doing it.

That we are having better relations with Syria.


Not sure that relations are better or worse. Syria and Iran have teamed up years ago and have been playing games with us and the rest of the world. The problem is Mr. Bush counts them as an enemy and is dealing with them behind the scenes in order not to give them any good/bad press.

Looking at what is happening around the world it seems that you have three problem children and three enablers. Russia which is selling Iran a nuclear plant, France which helps in the UN alnog with Russia and China which is working hard to be friends with at least one major oil producing country.

Debunked? Not totally but providing you a point of view that you have ignored or failed to consider. All your screaming that Mr. Bush is not doing anything about the probelms in the Middle East you seem to have ignored a lot of stuff in the news.
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