Evaluation of the policies of George W. Bush and his Republican conservatives on America.
Published on February 5, 2007 By COL Gene In Politics


In 2002 Bush and Cheney were telling the American People and Congress that we had to remove Saddam from power because to fail to act would risk “Mushroom clouds over American Cities”. Make no mistake about it, it was the belief that Saddam might use nuclear weapons against the U.S. that was feared most and was the issue that convinced Congress to give President Bush the authority to invade Iraq.

At the same time Bush and Cheney were pushing the nuclear threat issue from Saddam, the National Intelligence Estimate had several conclusions that said Saddam had no such weapons and would most likely not be able to acquire such weapons for 5-7 years. This NIE was classified and was only shared with the top leaders of Congress and the members of the intelligence Committees in Congress. The majority of Congress was not given the NIE assessment that Saddam did not have nuclear weapons in 2002 and would not be able to acquire such weapons for 5-7 years.

Time has proven that the 2002 NIE assessment of Saddam’s nuclear capability was correct. The argument by Bush and Cheney that we did not find WMD in Iraq because of the failure of our intelligence is incorrect so far as the nuclear threat is concerned. Bush further contends that Congress agreed that Saddam was a such a great threat that they gave Bush the authority to go to war AS A LAST RESORT. The problem is that when Congress voted on the Iraq War Resolution, the majority DID NOT have the NIE from 2002 because it was classified. Those few members of Congress that did have this intelligence could not share the information with other members of Congress or the American People without violating the law. Thus Congress acted WITHOUT the intelligence from the 16 U.S. Intelligence Agencies that said in 2002 and for 5-7 years in the future Saddam did not pose the nuclear threat the Bush and Cheney claimed when they asked for the authority to invade Iraq and depose Saddam.

Thus, we had a President and Vice President that ignored the most comprehensive intelligence about the major potential threat from Iraq – nuclear weapons. We had a President and Vice President that warned of the smoking gun in the form of Mushroom Clouds over our cities if we failed to remove Saddam from power knowing that Saddam did not have the weapons to conduct a nuclear attack against the United States!.
It was not the failure of our intelligence but the LIES of our two top leaders about the actual danger to our country posed by Saddam in 2002. For this reason, both Bush and Cheney should be Impeached and removed from office. There is no greater offense that a President can commit then taking our country to war predicated on lies. There was no nuclear threat in 2002 from Saddam and Bush and Cheney had the intelligence that said that was the case and deliberately asserted this danger in direct opposition to the intelligence. They further kept that intelligence CLASSIFIED so it was not available to ALL members of Congress and the American People. Bush and Cheney knew, if Congress and the American people saw that Saddam did not have nuclear weapons they would NOT support the invasion of Iraq.

Below are excerpts from the now declassified 2002 NIE that Bush and Cheney had and the majority of Congress and the American people did not have prior to the Iraq War Vote:


How quickly Iraq will obtain its first nuclear weapon depends on when it acquires sufficient weapons-grade fissile material.


Iraq probably would not be able to make a weapon until 2007 to 2009, owing to inexperience in building and operating centrifuge facilities to produce highly enriched uranium and challenges in procuring the necessary equipment and expertise.

Baghdad for now appears to be drawing a line short of conducting terrorist attacks with conventional or CBW against the United States, fearing that exposure of Iraqi involvement would provide Washington a stronger cause for making war.

State/INR Alternative View of Iraq's Nuclear Program
The Assistant Secretary of State for Intelligence and Research (INR) believes that Saddam continues to want nuclear weapons and that available evidence indicates that Baghdad is pursuing at least a limited effort to maintain and acquire nuclear weapons-related capabilities. The activities we have detected do not, however, add up to a compelling case that Iraq is currently pursuing what INR would consider to be an integrated and comprehensive approach to acquire nuclear weapons. Iraq may be doing so, but INR considers the available evidence inadequate to support such a judgment. Lacking persuasive evidence that Baghdad has launched a coherent effort to reconstitute its nuclear weapons program, INR is unwilling to speculate that such an effort began soon after the departure of UN inspectors or to project a timeline for the completion of activities it does not now see happening. As a result, INR is unable to predict when Iraq could acquire a nuclear device or weapon.
In INR's view Iraq's efforts to acquire aluminum tubes is central to the argument that Baghdad is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program, but INR is not persuaded that the tubes in question are intended for use as centrifuge rotors. INR accepts the judgment of technical experts at the U.S. Department of Energy (DOE) who have concluded that the tubes Iraq seeks to acquire are poorly suited for use in gas centrifuges to be used for uranium enrichment and finds unpersuasive the arguments advanced by others to make the case that they are intended for that purpose. INR considers it far more likely that the tubes are intended for another purpose, most likely the production of artillery rockets. The very large quantities being sought, the way the tubes were tested by the Iraqis, and the atypical lack of attention to operational security in the procurement efforts are among the factors, in addition to the DOE assessment, that lead INR to conclude that the tubes are not intended for use in Iraq's nuclear weapons program.

Moderate Confidence:
Iraq does not yet have a nuclear weapon or sufficient material to make one but is likely to have a weapon by 2007 to 2009.
Low Confidence
• When Saddam would use weapons of mass destruction.
• Whether Saddam would engage in clandestine attacks against the US Homeland.
• Whether in desperation Saddam would share chemical or biological weapons with al-Qa'ida.



INR's Alternative View: Iraq's Attempts to Acquire Aluminum Tubes
Some of the specialized but dual-use items being sought are, by all indications, bound for Iraq's missile program. Other cases are ambiguous, such as that of a planned magnet-production line whose suitability for centrifuge operations remains unknown. Some efforts involve non-controlled industrial material and equipment -- including a variety of machine tools -- and are troubling because they would help establish the infrastructure for a renewed nuclear program. But such efforts (which began well before the inspectors departed) are not clearly linked to a nuclear end-use. Finally, the claims of Iraqi pursuit of natural uranium in Africa are, in INR's assessment, highly dubious.

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on Feb 05, 2007
Whether you like it or not "impeachment" is NOT going to happen. No matter what "you" say or think they did. Also I'd like to know "where" you got your NIE information since all but 14 of the 93 pages are whited out!
Here's the report: Link

And here are the key judgementsf made from that report:

CIAO DATE: 03/05

Key Judgments (from October 2002 NIE) - Iraq's Continuing Programs for Weapons of Mass Destruction



October 2002

U.S. Government



Key Judgments

We judge that Iraq has continued its weapons of mass destruction (WMD) programs in defiance of UN resolutions and restrictions. Baghdad has chemical and biological weapons as well as missiles with ranges in excess of UN restrictions; if left unchecked, it probably will have a nuclear weapon during this decade. (See INR alternative view at the end of these Key Judgments.)

We judge that we are seeing only a portion of Iraq's WMD efforts, owing to Baghdad's vigorous denial and deception efforts. Revelations after the Gulf war starkly demonstrate the extensive efforts undertaken by Iraq to deny information. We lack specific information on many key aspects of Iraq's WMD programs.

Since inspections ended in 1998, Iraq has maintained its chemical weapons effort, energized its missile program, and invested more heavily in biological weapons; in the view of most agencies, Baghdad is reconstituting its nuclear weapons program.

Iraq's growing ability to sell oil illicitly increases Baghdad's capabilities to finance WMD programs; annual earnings in cash and goods have more than quadrupled, from $580 million in 1998 to about $3 billion this year.

Iraq has largely rebuilt missile and biological weapons facilities damaged during Operation Desert Fox and has expanded its chemical and biological infrastructure under the cover of civilian production.

Baghdad has exceeded UN range limits of 150 km with its ballistic missiles and is working with unmanned aerial vehicles (UAVs), which allow for a more lethal means to deliver biological and, less likely, chemical warfare agents.

Although we assess that Saddam does not yet have nuclear weapons or sufficient material to make any, he remains intent on acquiring them. Most agencies assess that Baghdad started reconstituting its nuclear program about the time that UNSCOM inspectors departed-December 1998.

How quickly Iraq will obtain its first nuclear weapon depends on when it acquires sufficient weapons-grade fissile material.

If Baghdad acquires sufficient fissile material from abroad it could make a nuclear weapon within several months to a year.

Without such material from abroad, Iraq probably would not be able to make a weapon until 2007 to 2009, owing to inexperience in building and operating centrifuge facilities to produce highly enriched uranium and challenges in procuring the necessary equipment and expertise.

Most agencies believe that Saddam's personal interest in and Iraq's aggressive attempts to obtain high-strength aluminum tubes for centrifuge rotors-as well as Iraq's attempts to acquire magnets, high-speed balancing machines, and machine tools-provide compelling evidence that Saddam is reconstituting a uranium enrichment effort for Baghdad's nuclear weapons program. (DOE agrees that reconstitution of the nuclear program is underway but assesses that the tubes probably are not part of the program.)

Iraq's efforts to re-establish and enhance its cadre of weapons personnel as well as activities at several suspect nuclear sites further indicate that reconstitution is underway.

All agencies agree that about 25,000 centrifuges based on tubes of the size Iraq is trying to acquire would be capable of producing approximately two weapons' worth of highly enriched uranium per year.

In a much less likely scenario, Baghdad could make enough fissile material for a nuclear weapon by 2005 to 2007 if it obtains suitable centrifuge tubes this year and has all the other materials and technological expertise necessary to build production-scale uranium enrichment facilities.



Here's the link: Link

So now go try to blow smoke up somebody's butt that doesn't know anything.
on Feb 05, 2007
on Feb 05, 2007
"Iraq's efforts to re-establish and enhance its cadre of weapons personnel as well as activities at several suspect nuclear sites further indicate that reconstitution is underway. All agencies agree that about 25,000 centrifuges based on tubes of the size Iraq is trying to acquire would be capable of producing approximately two weapons' worth of highly enriched uranium per year. In a much less likely scenario, Baghdad could make enough fissile material for a nuclear weapon by 2005 to 2007 if it obtains suitable centrifuge tubes this year and has all the other materials and technological expertise necessary to build production-scale uranium enrichment facilities."
on Feb 05, 2007
Bull Shit all you want, What I posted is from the 2002 NIE that Bush kept secret until AFTER the Iraq War Vote. NOTHING you post can chanege that.
on Feb 05, 2007

Bull Shit all you want, What I posted is from the 2002 NIE that Bush kept secret until AFTER the Iraq War Vote. NOTHING you post can change that.


No, YOU BS all you want. What I linked to are GOVERNMENT documents concerning the 2002 NIE and they say you're LYING! So why don't you quit trying to BS everyone!
on Feb 05, 2007
Bull Shit all you want, What I posted is from the 2002 NIE that Bush kept secret until AFTER the Iraq War Vote. NOTHING you post can chanege that.


Can you prove Bush kept it secret?  Yes or no question.
on Feb 05, 2007
As an aside: Pity they don't have impeachment laws in Britain!
on Feb 05, 2007
In 2002 Bush and Cheney were telling the American People and Congress that we had to remove Saddam from power because to fail to act would risk “Mushroom clouds over American Cities”. Make no mistake about it, it was the belief that Saddam might use nuclear weapons against the U.S. that was feared most and was the issue that convinced Congress to give President Bush the authority to invade Iraq.

At the same time Bush and Cheney were pushing the nuclear threat issue from Saddam, the National Intelligence Estimate had several conclusions that said Saddam had no such weapons and would most likely not be able to acquire such weapons for 5-7 years. This NIE was classified and was only shared with the top leaders of Congress and the members of the intelligence Committees in Congress. The majority of Congress was not given the NIE assessment that Saddam did not have nuclear weapons in 2002 and would not be able to acquire such weapons for 5-7 years.


This is a lie according to Senator Clinton who says she saw the entire report. Her fear was that of biological and chemical weapons not nuclear weapons. Did she forget to notice your opinion of the report you have not seen but she has? oops.

You sir are still a political hack. Telling lies and distortions in order to write something. Try research and facts you might get someone to read your tripe without laughter.
on Feb 05, 2007
hahahah I love Mason's picture. Poor horse.



on Feb 05, 2007
Poor horse.


It doesn't mind too much . . . it's mostly dead, after all . . .
on Feb 06, 2007
I do not have the date when the 2002 NIE was declassified but it was AFTER the vote to authorize Bush, AS A LAST RESORT, to invade Iraq. No one wants to acknowledge although Bush was given the authority to invade Iraq, the authorization was only AFTER all other options were exhausted. Bush did not even allow the UN weapons inspectors to complete their work and in fact they were forced to leave Iraq because on the impending U.S. Invasion. Since Bush knew Saddam DID not have nuclear weapons in early 2003, he should have allowed the weapons inspections to establish IF Saddam had ANY WMD. That is NOT what took place. Bush immediately moved ahead with the invasion and DID NOT invade Iraq as a LAST RESORT. If Bush had allowed the UN weapons inspectors to complete their work in 2003, we would have learned what we know today-- Saddam did not have the Nuclear and biological weapons. That would have taken the wind out of the Bush Sails to invade Iraq because the danger issue would have been gone.

"This is a lie according to Senator Clinton who says she saw the entire report. Her fear was that of biological and chemical weapons not nuclear weapons”

That may be her opinion. She was one of 435 members of Congress. The truth about gas as is that it hard to use it and cause the mass casualties and it is very hard to contain. The danger from Gas is in limited areas on a battle field and even then can create casualties to the users with the shift of the wind. There was very little discussion about Bio weapons in 2002 and the WMD MOST Americans feared were nuclear weapons. That is why Bush and Cheney used the threat of those Mushroom Clouds to convince Americans that Saddam was a danger. You did not hear Bush or Cheney warn about Bio dangers-- Their thrust was nuclear and they knew there was NO SUCH danger in 2002-2003 from Saddam as they claimed. Thus they LIED about the nuclear danger from Saddam pure and simple!

on Feb 06, 2007
We had plenty of reason to invade Iraq without the WMD issue. If you were serious about this you'd address the real criteria for impeachment, and whether anything Bush did could be considered high crimes and misdemeanors.
on Feb 06, 2007
do not have the date when the 2002 NIE was declassified but it was AFTER the vote to authorize Bush, AS A LAST RESORT, to invade Iraq. No one wants to acknowledge although Bush was given the authority to invade Iraq, the authorization was only AFTER all other options were exhausted. Bush did not even allow the UN weapons inspectors to complete their work and in fact they were forced to leave Iraq because on the impending U.S. Invasion. Since Bush knew Saddam DID not have nuclear weapons in early 2003, he should have allowed the weapons inspections to establish IF Saddam had ANY WMD. That is NOT what took place. Bush immediately moved ahead with the invasion and DID NOT invade Iraq as a LAST RESORT. If Bush had allowed the UN weapons inspectors to complete their work in 2003, we would have learned what we know today-- Saddam did not have the Nuclear and biological weapons. That would have taken the wind out of the Bush Sails to invade Iraq because the danger issue would have been gone.

"This is a lie according to Senator Clinton who says she saw the entire report. Her fear was that of biological and chemical weapons not nuclear weapons”

That may be her opinion. She was one of 435 members of Congress. The truth about gas as is that it hard to use it and cause the mass casualties and it is very hard to contain. The danger from Gas is in limited areas on a battle field and even then can create casualties to the users with the shift of the wind. There was very little discussion about Bio weapons in 2002 and the WMD MOST Americans feared were nuclear weapons. That is why Bush and Cheney used the threat of those Mushroom Clouds to convince Americans that Saddam was a danger. You did not hear Bush or Cheney warn about Bio dangers-- Their thrust was nuclear and they knew there was NO SUCH danger in 2002-2003 from Saddam as they claimed. Thus they LIED about the nuclear danger from Saddam pure and simple!


You have NO date because the 2002 NIE has NEVER been "fully" declassified! So yet one more of your lies. This is as close as you'll ever get:


Declassified Report: No Al Qaeda Link In Pre-War Iraq
This is the second in a series of articles reflecting on the state of America since 11 September 2001.
A newly-declassified (but redacted) 400-page Senate Intelligence Committee analysis of pre-war Iraq reports no evidence of a link between Saddam Hussein and al Qaeda. It concludes that Hussein "distrusted" al Qaeda and "viewed Islamic extremists as a threat to his regime."

It includes a CIA determination that prior to March 2003, Saddam Hussein ''did not have a relationship, harbor, or turn a blind eye toward [Abu Musab al Zarqawi] and his associates.'' Instead, he "attempted, unsuccessfully, to locate and capture al Zarqawi." A US airstrike killed al Zarqawi this summer.

The document is a scathing indictment of the 2002 National Intelligence Estimate (NIE), the document which presents a unified (some say political) front, reconciling or brushing over difference of opinion among various intelligence agencies. The NIE was used to justify attacking Iraq in March 2003.


Or this:


Excerpts from October 2002 National Intelligence Estimate - declassified and presented at a White House background briefing on July 18, 2003.


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Key Judgments [from October 2002 NIE]
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Iraq's Continuing Programs for Weapons of Mass Destruction


Link

So go ahead and tell some more lies!
on Feb 06, 2007
Bakerstreet

WE HAD NO reason to attack Iraq unless they were a real danger to the U.S. That was NOT the case in 2002-2003. In fact there were other countries in 2002 that were a danger like North Korea and Iran that we did not attack. WHY? The excuse that Saddam violated UN Resolutions does not wash because the U. S. is NOT the enforcement agent for the UN.

Sending our military to a WAR that was not justified and then not sending the troop levels needed to accomplish the mission which added to the American DEATHS AND INJURIES IS reason TO REMOVE any PRESIDENT FROM OFFICE.
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