Bush Blowing More Smoke About Iraq

Published on September 4, 2007 By COL Gene In Politics

Bush is telling everyone the Surge is Working when the facts say the opposite. Yes in Al Anbar Province the violence is much better but in the north and south the violence is much worse. Overall the death toll is UP and there is no progress on the political front. The Police Force is a problem and the Iraqi Military can not function on their own. For Bush to declare the surge is working to reduce the violence in Iraq is simply not true and the death toll and lack of political progress shows he is lying again!

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singrdave

on Sep 04, 2007

the Surge is Working when the facts say the opposite. Yes in Al Anbar Province the violence is much better but in the north and south the violence is much worse.

You know, maybe... just maybe GWB has access to better intel than you have. But doesn't matter... as long as it's good news from Iraq, you can't handle the truth! You won't be satisfied till every American troop is dead... because that would vindicate the position you've taken for the last five years.

COL Gene

on Sep 04, 2007

Reply By: singrdave Posted: Tuesday, September 04, 2007
The Surge is Working when the facts say the opposite. Yes in Al Anbar Province the violence is much better but in the north and south the violence is much worse.

You know, maybe... just maybe GWB has access to better Intel than you have. But doesn't matter... as long as it's good news from Iraq, you can't handle the truth! You won't be satisfied till every American troop is dead... because that would vindicate the position you've taken for the last five years.

It has NOTHING to do with better intelligence or better information. It has EVERYTHING to do with Bush Cherry Picking TRUE Facts that helps him spin his point and ignoring ALL other facts that do not support what he wants. No one is saying that Al Anbar is not more secure as Bush indicated. However the situation in the north and in the Basra Area are also facts. The overall death toll is UP. The lack of political progress has been established by our government. Studies by OUR people have concluded that the Iraqi Police Force is a major problem and that the Iraqi Military can not stand on its own after almost 5 years. The GAO has established the reconstruction operation is a failure and after 5 years basic services in Iraq are BE LOW the levels under Saddam. Reduced violence in one section of Iraq does not make all the other things go away. No Bush does not have better information he just ignores most of the facts because they show his policies have failed.

Yes I have been saying that I believed many of the Bush policies would not achieve the desired results since about 2003. Guess what? I WAS CORRECT!

singrdave

on Sep 04, 2007

It has NOTHING to do with better intelligence or better information. No Bush does not have better information he just ignores most of the facts because they show his policies have failed.

Keep telling yourself that. It's how you sleep at night.

CharlesCS

on Sep 04, 2007

You know, maybe... just maybe GWB has access to better intel than you have. But doesn't matter... as long as it's good news from Iraq, you can't handle the truth! You won't be satisfied till every American troop is dead... because that would vindicate the position you've taken for the last five years.

No insult intended SingrDave but you missed the most important part of that piece you quoted. Col actually proved my point about him contradicting himself, this time he did it withing the first 2 sentences of his article. First he says the facts say the opposite, then he admits it has been working. LOL, what a guy.

COL Gene

on Sep 04, 2007

Reply By: singrdave Posted: Tuesday, September 04, 2007
It has NOTHING to do with better intelligence or better information. No Bush does not have better information he just ignores most of the facts because they show his policies have failed.

Keep telling yourself that. It's how you sleep at night.

The reality tells me that. Bush sees everything as he wants them to be not as they are on the ground.

COL Gene

on Sep 04, 2007

Reply By: CharlesCS1 Posted: Tuesday, September 04, 2007

You know, maybe... just maybe GWB has access to better Intel than you have. But doesn't matter... as long as it's good news from Iraq, you can't handle the truth! You won't be satisfied till every American troop is dead... because that would vindicate the position you've taken for the last five years.

No insult intended SingrDave but you missed the most important part of that piece you quoted. Col actually proved my point about him contradicting himself, this time he did it withing the first 2 sentences of his article. First he says the facts say the opposite, then he admits it has been working.

, what a guy.

The reduced violence in Al Anbar is more then offset by the increased fighting in BOTH the North and the South. The increased death toll shows the Surge is NOT making Iraq more stable.

singrdave

on Sep 04, 2007

Guess what? I WAS CORRECT!

To the tune of "Take Me Out to the Ball Game":
So let's root, root, root for jihadists... if they don't win, it's a shame.
For it's one, two, three strikes you're out for the old ball game!

Island Dog

on Sep 04, 2007

The reality tells me that. Bush sees everything as he wants them to be not as they are on the ground.

When was the last time you were "on the ground" in Iraq?

singrdave

on Sep 04, 2007

I hear more balanced reporting from the North Korean news service.

adnauseam

on Sep 04, 2007

Singrdave: " just maybe GWB has intel that that you don't have."

Sure, he and Rumsfeld had plenty of intel for what it's worth. I'm sure that Bush and Rumsfeld had so much intel that they had no post-invasion plan.Let's face it Bush has got skewed people on his team--so skewed they couldn't run a small town!

COL Gene

on Sep 04, 2007

Bush had the very best advice from our most experienced people who knew Iraq and that region. That advice said DO NOT INVADE IRAQ. You will get stuck in a Quagmire. You will destabilize Iraq and the region. Bush IGNORED that advice and guess what-- That advice was correct. Bush was given the best Military Advice as to what was required to invade Iraq and control the country after Saddam fell- He Ignored it and sent less then 1/3 the troops that were required to do the job and today we have a disaster and more then 3,700 dead troops and 27,000 injured because Bush did not listen to our military leaders.

Bush does what he wants and disregards any advice or data that does not support what he wants. He never admits he was wrong and just keeps going in a direction that has failed in the past. He did that in Iraq, with Trade, Social Security, Immigration, the deficit etc. He is a looser and January 20, 2009 can not come soon enough!!!!!!!

Island Dog

on Sep 04, 2007

Bush does what he wants and disregards any advice or data that does not support what he wants. He never admits he was wrong and just keeps going in a direction that has failed in the past

Sounds just like someone here. LOL.

COL Gene

on Sep 04, 2007

Sounds just like someone here.

.

Not even close. When I am wrong I admit it and move on. NOT BUSH! When I was working and I made mistakes I looked at alternatives to accomplish the task at hand. Bush has no idea of that concept and he is the leader of our country. HOW SAD!!! We will all pay in the future for a President the likes of GWB!

Island Dog

on Sep 04, 2007

Not even close. When I am wrong I admit it and move on.

Yeah right. You have been proven wrong here so many times I have lost count, and you don't admit you are wrong, you just start another anti-Bush article. LOL.

I looked at alternatives to accomplish the task at hand. Bush has no idea of that concept and he is the leader of our country. HOW SAD!!!

And your "alternatives" are all left-wing talking points, most of which are completely ridiculous and void of reality.

We will all pay in the future for a President the likes of GWB!

Stop speaking for "all" of us. Once again you have to be so dramatic about something.

CharlesCS

on Sep 04, 2007

Hey ID, did you notice how he aligned himself with the Democrats here below?

Not even close. When I am wrong I admit it and move on.

See the last 2 words? Just add .org at then end and he just made an ad for them. Coincidence? Maybe, maybe not.

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