I am very much in favour of senators and MPs spending their money on charities that help children.

Better to be called despicable and know where I stand and what I believe rather than be the one who doesn't know where they stand and what they believe but only dances for the DNC.



The Dems are by no means the Robin Hoods of the US forests.

Ah yes. SHOW ME the poor who are suffering Col?

NO WHERE, does Christ say, Give to the gov't to take care of the poor, widows, and orphans.

If you are SOOOOOOO concerned for the poor as you pretend to be then start a non-profit charity that will provide health care for them. Quit trying to forcefully take MY money and give it to the MOST inefficient business there is.

Get a clue!

Reply By: little-whip Posted: Friday, October 19, 2007
~yawn.

“Go do it, then Col Green Beans. Put your money where your mouth is and pay for a few billboards.

Or do you want someone else to pay for that too? (typical Democrat.)”


I will support a candidate and allow the democrats to do the Bill Boards. I bet MOST Americas support this bill as did most of the Congress. We talk a good game about democracy but at home we allow a minority to STOP what the majority wants. That is true in the S-CHIP, Control of our borders, Social Security and Medicare and Iraq. What we see is a continuation of policies that the MAJORITY do not support continues because of the GOP who has placed themselves ABOVE our democracy. At one time I thought the "Line item veto" was something I would support. Seeing how Bush and the so called Compassionate Conservatives act, I know that power in the hands of someone like Bush would be a disaster!

“If you are SOOOOOOO concerned for the poor as you pretend to be then start a non-profit charity that will provide health care for them. Quit trying to forcefully take MY money and give it to the MOST inefficient business there is.”

We support about 10 charities in addition to our church. The S-Chip plan is about children that DO NOT HAVE HEALTH COVERAGE. Polls show about 70% of Americans support this bill- How in a democracy can you justify stopping what the vast majority want? That includes the vast majority of the Congress elected by the people under our republic? Bush and some GOP are defying the majority of both the people and the government the people elected! That is also true about ending the war in Iraq!

Leave the program the way it is and we're for it. Expand the program to illegal aliens and college-aged people and we're against it. Some of us anyway. Enough to pass the law.

Honestly, the funding of the program was just a political maneuver to get the Republicans to vote for their expansion. If we separate funding from non-funding bills, and never allow the two to come together, our government would probably spend a lot less in pork and a lot more on better programs.

That's commendable!

Why don't you start a charity to help the children? Why must you forcefully take MY money? If 70% actually supported this bill then support for your newly founded charity would be successful.

You talk about democracy but yet you want to TAKE money from someone who isn't able to yet provide health care for my stay at home wife to provide health care for illegals and for people who make more than twice what I do who have their priority's messed up.

Reply By: Jythier Posted: Friday, October 19, 2007
Honestly, the funding of the program was just a political maneuver to get the Republicans to vote for their expansion. If we separate funding from non-funding bills, and never allow the two to come together, our government would probably spend a lot less in pork and a lot more on better programs.

JUST think how much less we would spend if it were not for the Iraq War!!!!!

“As well as those earning triple the poverty line! I'm sorry, Clueless, folks making 80k a year do not need help paying for their children's insurance.

Only in America could that kind of income be considered 'having nothing.”

I Hope the democrats clearly exclude illegal aliens. If we want to encourage our children to attend college, I would keep the college students for families with incomes up to about $70,000. The federal poverty level is so low that including families three or four times $21,000 is not too high because people with an income of $60,000-70,000 can not pay $7-8,000 for JUST health insurance. We can pay Farm Subsidies to farmers that make up to $2.5 MILLION per year but can not help families provide health care for their children who make $60,000- $70,000 per year. How do you explain that?

Reply By: little-whip Posted: Friday, October 19, 2007
Expand the program to illegal aliens and college-aged people


As well as those earning triple the poverty line! I'm sorry, Clueless, folks making 80k a year do not need help paying for their children's insurance.

YOU are full of BS. A family in the $70-80K range with a couple of children does not have $8,000 per year, which is the average cost of family health insurance, to pay just for health insurance. Families in the $40-60,000 are even worse off. When you look at what it costs for housing utilities, gasoline, food for a family it does not allow $8,000 for health insurance.

Hope all you want but they didn't. It was they that ADDED it.



You mean they would have to give up their nintendo, Ipod, and other luxuries to afford this?? Oh the insanity of getting a person's priorities right.

If a person has that much value on having insurance then it would be a priority would it not? Would you subsidize me getting a house while I buy booze? No, you wouldn't. You'd tell me to clean up my act and save THAT money to pay for a place of residence. So why are you giving these people who make enough.

As I said I make less than 40K and my wife currently does not work. She doesn't have insurance Col. NO INSURANCE. But do you see me whinning that I am poor waiting for a bloody handout? No you do not. Why because I know that right now we cannot afford it just yet. We have other things that we must pay off/for first. We have chosen to not have insurance on her because we adjusted our priorities. That is the bottom line. You want to keep people lazy by giving them a pass on their poor choices but are the first to scream at Bush for his irresponsibilities? You want Bush to be responsible how about making the American Public responsible?

I could maintain my standard of living AND afford insurance for my couple of kids and my wife on a $50k salary. So, that 70-80K claim is ridiculous. And yeah, it would cost about $8k.

You give to 10 charities, you give to the church, yet you refuse to help out your own son.

And you call REPUBLICANS cold hearted!

Help me out here Jythier.

So you would pay $8K for insurance on your family (insurance of your choice)or let the gov't take over your insurance someone would still be paying $8K for your money plus extra from the bloated infrastructure of gov't administrators with them as your only option for insurance that will have less coverage (and depicted upon legislation what is covered)?

Which would you choose?

actually he allowed a lady to waste expensive oil on his feet rather than give it to the poor.