gene you are so stupid, you probabally try to shave the image in the mirror instead of your own face.

I can hardly wait till GWB is out of the white house so you will shut the fuck up and go away. My G-D you are an Idiot!! no, come to think of it you would have to raise your I.Q. by 25 points to be able to claim to be an Idiot!

Normally I would never be this unkind to another person, but you have lost any respect that I would accord to someone along the line of Osama Bin Laden, At least he has some kind of reason for his hatred of this country, while you have none, you are just filled with blind hatred for the entire GOP. If I could have one wish It would be that GWB could be president for life in the hopes that it would give you a stroke and leave you unable to communicate and let you seethe inside filled with this hatred till you rot.
Other than that have a nice day! Put that in your next book, so the three people that have actually looked at it can see what a patriot thinks about you!!

Reply By: DaiwaPosted: Wednesday, November 07, 2007Once again: What benefit could possibly accrue to the GOP by manipulating the price of oil upward leading up to an election? Either they have control of it or they don't - you need to admit that they don't.

The issue has nothing with manipulating oil prices. It has to do with a total failure of Bush and the GOP controlled Congress to move this country to a position of LESS dependency on foreign oil. One of the first issues Bush tackled was energy. The Big Cheney commission that was to provide the way to less dependence on foreign oil. Look at what has taken place in the 6 years after that Cheney super secret study-- WE ARE WORSE OFF TODAY THEN BEFORE THE STUDY! Bush has not done anything that has materially improved our situation so that now when oil prices have gone from $27 to $97 dollars a Barrel and the cost of gasoline has more then doubled, America is more dependent on that foreign oil and unable to mute the impact of these price increases. Every American individual and company is in jeopardy from the lack of effective policies to move our country to a position of greater oil independence. All we got in 7 years is Bush telling us we are addicted to oil! What a revelation. The man in inept and has done NOTHGING to deal with one of the most serious problems that endangers our security and economy.

Then why have you accused Bush & Cheney of that before?

There you go again Gene, blaming Prs. Bush for something that he has no authority to change. On the other hand Congress could do something about it, but the Pelosi/Reid Congress is too busy doing nothing to actually act on anything.

Of course, in your absolute ignorance and blind hatred for Bush, facts and the Constitution don't mean a thing.

you guys forgot to point out that the democrats have blocked off shore drilling and drilling in anwr, which was set aside for that reason.


and gene please don't drag out that tired old it will hurt the caribou and thus hurt the bears. truth be known the caribou population is up along the existing pipeline. why because the existing pipeline is providing more food. how you might ask, sorry forgot who i was addressing there, because the pipeline is keeping the grass snow free or at least mostly snow free due to the hot oil in the pipeline.
which means that the bear population is up in the area too because they have more food too.

Exactly Daniel. Why is it that it's so wrong for the US to drill in the Gulf, but pretty much every other country on the Gulf of Mexico can? Once again we see the uselessness of the Pelosi/Reid Congress, yet all Gene wants to do is piss his pants about Prs. Bush.

This is precisely the reason nobody take gene seriously.  We have shown him countless times how democrats and other left wing groups have opposed many measures to lessen our dependency, but yet he can do nothing but blame Bush and the GOP. 

 

Reply By: DaiwaPosted: Wednesday, November 07, 2007The issue has nothing with manipulating oil prices.Then why have you accused Bush & Cheney of that before?

What I said is BIG OIL has manipulated supplies to impact prices and has increased retail prices more then to just cover increase crude oil prices. The failure of Bush and the GOP is they did nothing to move us from dependence on foreign oil. They refused to force higher gas mileage to conserve existing oil supplies and nothing to stimulate the production of non oil energy such as solar, wind, geothermal etc. All they did is give big tax credits to the oil companies who were already making record profits. Bush and the GOP never saw a tax cut they did not like- It does not need to make sense or help the majority of Americans just so long as it helps the wealthy become more wealthy.

and what is Pelosi/Reid doing about it? They have more authority to act on everything you just said than Prs. Bush does. But of course, that doesn't matter to you, as long as you can hate Bush reality can take a flying leap.

Reply By: Island DogPosted: Thursday, November 08, 2007you guys forgot to point out that the democrats have blocked off shore drilling and drilling in anwr, which was set aside for that reason. This is precisely the reason nobody take gene seriously. We have shown him countless times how democrats and other left wing groups have opposed many measures to lessen our dependency, but yet he can do nothing but blame Bush and the GOP.

The amount of oil in Anbar has been estimated at less then 3% of out consumption would take 10 years to start the flow of oil and endangers the environment. That is a non solution. A ONE mile increase in the average mileage for new cars would SAVE more oil then is in Anbar which Bush and the GOP refused to consider.

so your saying that a hundred or two hundred mile pipeline is more dangerous than a 10,000 mile trip by oil tanker.

lets see in the last 20 years i have heard of one oil leak from the pipeline no oil actually got out.

and i cant count high enough to tell you how many oil tankers have run aground.





wrong it is the same as what is in Iraq.


you really need to start listening to more than one group of people.


the north shore, that is where we are drilling was only estimated to have enough oil to last ten years. how long has it been.

wrong it is the same as what is in Iraq.you really need to start listening to more than one group of people.the north shore, that is where we are drilling was only estimated to have enough oil to last ten years. how long has it been.

I could support drilling in ANWR so long as it was part of a comprehensive policy that included increased auto mileage, a major push for non-oil energy and Federal Subsidies for new auto systems to move us from oil to other types of propulsion. It would also need to include an end to Oil company tax credits and an excess profits tax that would be used to fund some of the non-oil projects.

won't happen under either party.





in the works however the main stumbling block are the democrats and the environmentalists.



Topping the list for repeal are:

Tax breaks for refinery expansion and for geological studies to help oil exploration.


A measure passed two years ago primarily to promote domestic manufacturing. It allows oil companies to take a tax credit if they chose to drill in this country instead of going abroad.


Democrats say neither tax benefit should be needed for an industry reaping large profits at today's high crude oil prices.

you mean these tax credits aimed at getting the oil companies to do what you also want done.

by the way tax credits in this case means that the government won't take away money that is already yours.

Reply By: danielostPosted: Thursday, November 08, 2007by the way tax credits in this case means that the government won't take away money that is already yours.

How are tax credits to oil companies “taking away money that is yours”? This is money they are extracting from all of us and putting into the pockets of the few. In addition, the increase in oil and gas prices is far worse then any tax increase. It impacts all of us even those who can not afford it and the money ends up in the pockets of the wealthy at the expense of the masses. As I said, Robin Hood For the Rich!