Reply By: danielostPosted: Wednesday, November 21, 2007The Republicans spared no effort in impeaching Clinton for lying about having sex with an adult.no it wasn't about sex it was about perjury in court. the court case was about him raping and sexually harassing women before and after he took office. meaning that his lie was important to the case.

The allegations against Clinton were investigated and in the end Clinton was NOT removed from office. We need to apply the same standard to Bush and Cheney concerning the cover up which amounts to obstruction of Justice if proven in court. The issue is that we MUST now fully investigate what Bush and Cheney did and did not do in the cover up of the outing of Mrs. Wilson. Bush and Cheney can not be allowed to mask the facts with Executive Privilege for to allow that means a President could violate ANY law and would be able to go unpunished if he did in fact break the laws he swore to uphold.

Scott McClellan needs to be put under oath by the Special Prosecutor along with ALL other officials involved with either the actual outing or the subsequent cover up. If Bush does not allow the facts to come to light to see if a crime was committed, then he must be impeached because what he would be doing is using his power to prevent the justice system from uncovering the truth.

If after ALL the facts have come to light then a decision can be made to either charge Bush and Cheney for obstruction of Justice or not. A decision can also be made weather to charge Rove, Libby and Armitage for violating the law about revealing classified information. With McClellan’s revelations there is certainly enough evidence to start these investigations so the truth and nothing but the truth is brought to light!

double jeopardy

Clinton is not relavent here, though I understand your point. The Republicans did spare no expense to persue him on purely political grounds.

My point remains this administration will never be impeached. It's just not going to happen - whether it should or not.

I did want to clear up one thing. Plame got approval to recommend her husband (who was very qualified to go) for this job to begin with, from her boss. In fact, she claims it was her boss who suggested it.

I've heard her interviewed several times, and I think she is a victim here. That's a gut reaction. And I don't put anything past Rove.

One wonders: for power hungry Rove, his little rat feet scampered away pretty quick. I see his finger prints on the entire episode. Whether it goes past him is another debate.

Reply By: danielostPosted: Wednesday, November 21, 2007Libby double jeopardy

No He was never charged with providing classified information to the press. He could be tried on that charge!

One wonders: for power hungry Rove, his little rat feet scampered away pretty quick. I see his finger prints on the entire episode. Whether it goes past him is another debate.

The overriding issue is the way Bush has abused his power and then used executive privilege to keep the truth from becoming public. The problem is that source after source is coming to light despite his power and attempts to keep what he and his minions have done secret. We will continue to learn more of the illegal things he and his administration have done for years to come.

We will continue to hear more "stories" when someone needs publicity for their book release. 

Reply By: Island DogPosted: Wednesday, November 21, 2007The problem is that source after source is coming to light despite his power and attempts to keep what he and his minions have done secret. We will continue to learn more of the illegal things he and his administration have done for years to come.We will continue to hear more "stories" when someone needs publicity for their book release.

That does not mean the information is not true. HOW can you not be outraged that we have a President and VP that lied about putting our CIA Agents in danger and in taking us to war?

I don't disagree, Col. Maybe I've watched to many crime shows. What you can prove and what you suspect are just two different things. If I was investigating this, I'd look to rat boy (Rove) and then see where that trail takes me. But it is to soon to be presenting a case against Cheney and Bush based on what is publicly known. Note the wording of that. Then, in terms of politics, you have another thing. Politically, it just won't happen in my view. Though, maybe I'm wrong.

(I'm sorry about making fun of Rove. I photographed him the day he found out HE WOULD NOT be indited on these charges, and the smug smirk on his face still sticks with me. At that point I thought, "most people would be to embarassed to admit they were being investigated, not proud to have beat the rap."

And the republican minions he was speaking to that day all clapped and cat called when the announcement was made. It was very disheartening.)

wrong

Reply By: danielostPosted: Wednesday, November 21, 2007"most people would be to embarassed to admit they were being investigated, not proud to have beat the rap."wrong

JUST PEOPLE LIKE YOU!

Doesn't mean the information is credible either.  Someone trying to make money off a book normally people wouldn't buy is a good motivation to exaggerate facts.  Much like your blog.  There is no evidence Bush "outed" this desk agent from the CIA who was using her position and her husband for political motives.





Well we don't know that for sure, since Sandy Berger destroyed the documents relating to Clintons terrorism measures.

Reply By: Island DogPosted: Wednesday, November 21, 2007That does not mean the information is not true. HOW can you not be outraged that we have a President and VP that lied about putting our CIA Agents in danger and in taking us to war?Doesn't mean the information is credible either. Someone trying to make money off a book normally people wouldn't buy is a good motivation to exaggerate facts. Much like your blog. There is no evidence Bush "outed" this desk agent from the CIA who was using her position and her husband for political motives.

Given the fact that so many of the things Bush and Cheney told us have turned out to be lies, I believe McClellan. That is WHY I would like him and all others in this matter put under Oath and then see what we learn!

this part is wrong. i don't know about you liberals but i would be very happy that the charges had been dropped and i needn't worry about going to jail or losing my job.



this part is true.

wrong? really? Hmmmm.

really? Hmmmmm. That surprises me.

All we have in this life is our word and our honesty. Everything else is not important, save our family. I can tell you, if I was basically accused of corruption, I would hang my head in shame. And when I was exhonorated, (and I would be) to use a less provocative term, I wouldn't be giving victory signs but stating matter-of-factly it was time to move on with the business of state.

Tacky at best, a glimpse into a rat's brain at worse. I should post the sneering victory photo, then maybe you would understand my distaste. At least, I hope you would.

well everyone takes good news differently.

obviously when you get good news you just stay upset.

others become cheerful

me depending on what it is doesn't affect me but that is the nature of depression.