Reply By: danielostPosted: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 The NIE says that is not an issue. again this is the same group that has been saying that iran would have a nuke weapon in 5 to 10 years. over the last 4 years.

It is the Intelligence we have and I would accept their datra before Bush who oinly fools believe! If the NIE had said Iran was about to heve a nuclear weapon Bush would be shouting it from the ROOF TOPS!

Reply By: ParaTed2kPosted: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 If Iraq or Iran had invaded the U.S. what do you think we would be doing to the invaders? You would be joining them.

Dam Straight-- I would ATTCK anyone that invaded the U.S.!!!!!!!!! In Iraq WE ARE THE INVADERS!

No, Gene, I said YOU would be joining those who attacked the US. Your bigoted hatred for America is clear with every poisoned word you type. The thought of torturing and murdering Americans (especially our troops) is porn to your twisted, sickening brain.

Yes, Iran is just another innocent victim of the U.S. and they are not a threat at all.


Bush Derangement Syndrome: the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency -- nay -- the very existence of George W. Bush.

Idiot Gene... Could it be that Iran had to stop their nuclear program because the money being used was diverted to fighting the US and a free Iraq?

Of course not, your heroes who have declared war against the US would never do that, would they?

Reply By: ParaTed2kPosted: Wednesday, December 05, 2007No, Gene, I said YOU would be joining those who attacked the US.

YOU ARE A STUPID ASS!!!!!!!

Reply By: Island DogPosted: Wednesday, December 05, 2007Yes, Iran is just another innocent victim of the U.S. and they are not a threat at all. Bush Derangement Syndrome: the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction to the policies, the presidency -- nay -- the very existence of George W. Bush.

YES Bush is a Plague of this country

Reply By: ParaTed2kPosted: Wednesday, December 05, 2007Idiot Gene... Could it be that Iran had to stop their nuclear program because the money being used was diverted to fighting the US and a free Iraq?Of course not, your heroes who have declared war against the US would never do that, would they?

The issue is they STOPPED! If we had not invaded Iraq neither the Iraqis or Iranians would be attacking us in Iraq! Bush should have sent our troops aginst those responsible for 9/11 and that is NOT IRAQ

Synch, not "sink" Gene. In an article this short you should probably get all the words spelled correctly.

 

As far as the need for Congressional authorization for any war. I am in agreement, I think most people are.

As far as the need for Congressional authorization for any war. I am in agreement, I think most people are.

Bush is the one that NEEDS to understand that! Today he said Iran needs to explain their weapons program that ended in 2003. WHY! If they are not moving toward completing such weapons the danger Bush has been pushing DOES NOT EXIST!

The people who were behind Sept. 11 have mostly been killed or captured.




I don't this "report" is any reason to start believing Iran is not a threat. But then again what do you care, it's just something else for you to complain about.

Reply By: Island DogPosted: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 Bush should have sent our troops aginst those responsible for 9/11 and that is NOT IRAQ The people who were behind Sept. 11 have mostly been killed or captured.

Al-Qaeda is alive and well in Afghanistan. The situation in that country is not good and after 6 years of fighting we have not destroyed Al-Qaeda. The Commandant of the Marine Corps wants to pull the 20,000 Marines from Iraq and send them to Afghanistan. The Army CoS wants to reduce the tours in Iraq which would mean cutting the force levels. Only Bush prevents these things from taking place. It is time that Congress require this with the funding restrictions in the DoD funding!

I don't this "report" is any reason to start believing Iran is not a threat. But then again what do you care, it's just something else for you to complain about.

It is EVERY reason to believe Iran is not the nuclear threat Bush warned about. It is another Mushroom Cloud threat like the Iraq WMD.

Stratfor Geopolitical Intelligence Report George Friedman


The United States released a new National Intelligence Estimate (NIE) on Dec. 3. It said, "We judge with high confidence that in the fall of 2003, Tehran halted its nuclear weapons program." It went on to say, "Tehran's decision to halt its nuclear weapons program suggests it is less determined to develop nuclear weapons than we have been judging since 2005." It further said, "Our assessment that Iran halted the program in 2003 primarily in response to international pressure indicates Tehran's decisions are guided by a cost-benefit approach rather than a rush to a weapon irrespective of the political, economic and military costs."

With this announcement, the dynamics of the Middle Eastern region, Iraq and U.S.-Iranian relations shift dramatically. For one thing, the probability of a unilateral strike against Iranian nuclear targets is gone. Since there is no Iranian nuclear weapons program, there is no rationale for a strike. Moreover, if Iran is not engaged in weapons production, then a broader air campaign designed to destabilize the Iranian regime has no foundation either.

The NIE release represents a transformation of U.S. policy toward Iran. The Bush administration made Iran's nuclear weapons program the main reason for its attempt to create an international coalition against Iran, on the premise that a nuclear-armed Iran was unacceptable. If there is no Iranian nuclear program, then what is the rationale for the coalition? Moreover, what is the logic of resisting Iran's efforts in Iraq, rather than cooperating?

When is the last time you have been to Afghanistan?




As i said, this NIE is not the end case with Iran, no matter how many bolds and underlines you use.

Reply By: Island DogPosted: Wednesday, December 05, 2007 Al-Qaeda is alive and well in Afghanistan. The situation in that country is not good and after 6 years of fighting we have not destroyed Al-Qaeda. When is the last time you have been to Afghanistan?

I do not have to go to Afghanistan. I listen to what our military leaders are saying and watch the national news. If you are saying that the war in Afghanistan is not getting worse you do not know what you are talking about. Why would the Commandant of the Marine Corps want to send the 20,000 Marines in Anbar in Iraq to Afghanistan if the war was going well?

U.S. Notes Limited Progress in Afghan War
Strategic Goals Unmet, White House Concludes

By Karen DeYoung
Washington Post Staff Writer
Sunday, November 25, 2007; Page A01

A White House assessment of the war in Afghanistan has concluded that wide-ranging strategic goals that the Bush administration set for 2007 have not been met, even as U.S. and NATO forces have scored significant combat successes against resurgent Taliban fighters, according to U.S. officials.

Iran had to stop working on their bomb. because they had no way of getting their bomb to its target. the method they have chosen to deliver it is rockets. they are still working on their rocket program. thus when they have their rocket they will go back to their weapon if we don't make them stop all together.


also who you going to blame when the Iranians do attack someone in the next 5 years.


one more thing. Iran is providing weapons to the taliban.