Evaluation of the policies of George W. Bush and his Republican conservatives on America.
Published on December 26, 2007 By COL Gene In Politics


When I listened to Ron Paul being interviewed on Meet the Press and while watching the Republican debates, two of the most fundamental conservative axioms we hear from Republicans were shown to be fabrications.

First is an individual make better spending choices then government.

Second is that government spending is ineffective and wasteful.

Spending Choices

Does anyone believe that if all or most spending choices were made by individuals that they would say I need to spend money to help replace that tank the 1st Armored Division needs? I will repair the section of I95 between, mile marker X and Y in George. Baby Carol Smith needs formula today and I will buy it for her. We need another border guard to stop illegals and possibly terrorists from crossing into the U.S.

The truth is none of those and many other choices that are essential for our country to survive and prosper would be made by individuals. The spending choices must be made by BOTH individuals to provide for individual needs but the needs of our society and to insure our security and to facilitate commerce, banking, law enforcement and many other items must be made collectively by government.

That is not to say that some spending choices by government, like to build the bridge in Alaska where about 50 people lived, are the best choices. However if the choice were to repair a bridge that enabled tens of thousands to get to work each day that spending choice would be sound and could be essential.

Government spending is Wasteful

In most cases when the government spends tax dollars that money returns to the economy and helps individuals and business. If the Federal Government buys that tank the 1st Armored Division needs, Americans are put to work and the companies that make the tank earn a profit. That helps the people who own the stock of the companies who make and assemble that tank. It also provides something we NEED to protect our freedom. If the Federal government adds that Border Guard, that person spends the salary they are paid from taxes and that helps the economy. An expenditure the government makes that does not help our people is the interest on the debt that is paid to foreign investors. That tax money does not return to our economy.

If an individual takes their tax cut and invests it in a business that employs people outside the U.S. that investment takes money from our economy. In that case the spending choice by an individual harms the economy. Thus these two GOP axioms above are not true and it is time the American Voters understand the true nature of Federal spending. We do need to pay for our spending and STOP deficit spending! The GOP is supporting political ideas that are NOT in agreement with the majority of Americans. As a Republican I can not understand HOW the GOP got so far from the mainstream of the American People. Most Republicans can not complete a sentence without using the word “Conservative”. The majority of Americans are NOT Conservatives.

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on Jan 04, 2008
Reply By: DraginolPosted: Friday, January 04, 2008
BS. You will have to layoff people if the economy goes into RECESSION and people can not BUY what you produce or sell!
No. I MAY have to lay people off IF the economy goes into recession. By contrast I WILL have to lay people off IF taxes go up.


If you profit margin is such that an increase of 4% in your Federal income tax rates cause you to lay off workers, you have much bigger problems than higher taxes! If you are in the top 10%, which is the only group I support we increase tax rates for, you will not have to lay off workers if we go back to the rates in effect in the 1990's. That is just not possible because to be in the top 10% your income would have to be above $250,000 per year! A 4% increase on a taxable income of $250,000 is $10,000. HOW MANY WORKERS WILL THAT CAUSE YOU TO LAY OFF?
on Jan 04, 2008
A 4% increase on a taxable income of $250,000 is $10,000. HOW MANY WORKERS WILL THAT CAUSE YOU TO LAY OFF?


at least one per company per every 250,000 dollar or portion of 250,000. ie if your taxable income is 300,000 that would be two.
on Jan 04, 2008
Reply By: danielostPosted: Friday, January 04, 2008
A 4% increase on a taxable income of $250,000 is $10,000. HOW MANY WORKERS WILL THAT CAUSE YOU TO LAY OFF?
at least one per company per every 250,000 dollar or portion of 250,000. ie if your taxable income is 300,000 that would be two.


IF YOU HAVE AN INCOME OF $250,000 OR MORE AND SAY YOU WOULD BE FORCED TO LAY OFF A WORKER BECAUSE YOU HAD TO PAY AN ADDITIONAL $10,000 IN INCOME TAX YOU ARE A BS ARTIST!
on Jan 04, 2008
IF YOU HAVE AN INCOME OF $250,000 OR MORE AND SAY YOU WOULD BE FORCED TO LAY OFF A WORKER BECAUSE YOU HAD TO PAY AN ADDITIONAL $10,000 IN INCOME TAX YOU ARE A BS ARTIST!



no you are an idiot, companies must maintain a certain profit margin to stay open. if you had really run a business a real business not an imagined one. you would know this.


and most companies, not all of them, but most run at the bare minimum.
on Jan 04, 2008
Reply By: danielostPosted: Friday, January 04, 2008
IF YOU HAVE AN INCOME OF $250,000 OR MORE AND SAY YOU WOULD BE FORCED TO LAY OFF A WORKER BECAUSE YOU HAD TO PAY AN ADDITIONAL $10,000 IN INCOME TAX YOU ARE A BS ARTIST!
no you are an idiot, companies must maintain a certain profit margin to stay open. if you had really run a business a real business not an imagined one. you would know this.and most companies, not all of them, but most run at the bare minimum.


IF YOU have a taxable income after business expenses of $250,000 or more, you can afford an added $10,000 in Income tax!
on Jan 04, 2008
Gene doing what he does best.  Telling other people how they spend their money and how much they should be taxed.  
on Jan 04, 2008
Reply By: Island DogPosted: Friday, January 04, 2008Gene doing what he does best. Telling other people how they spend their money and how much they should be taxed.


What I am saying is that because of the deficit we need more tax revenue and the rich are the only group that can afford to pay more with out causing them any harm! Simple as that!
on Jan 04, 2008
What I am saying is that because of the deficit we need more tax revenue and the rich are the only group that can afford to pay more with out causing them any harm! Simple as that!




lets make it simple gene. no more taxes until there is no more pork.
on Jan 04, 2008

If you profit margin is such that an increase of 4% in your Federal income tax rates cause you to lay off workers, you have much bigger problems than higher taxes! If you are in the top 10%, which is the only group I support we increase tax rates for, you will not have to lay off workers if we go back to the rates in effect in the 1990's. That is just not possible because to be in the top 10% your income would have to be above $250,000 per year! A 4% increase on a taxable income of $250,000 is $10,000. HOW MANY WORKERS WILL THAT CAUSE YOU TO LAY OFF?

Last year our taxable income was around $2.5M + which ended up paying federal of around $1M.

An increase of 4% would increase this by around $100,000.  So that's about two jobs.

on Jan 05, 2008
What I am saying is that because of the deficit we need more tax revenue and the rich are the only group that can afford to pay more with out causing them any harm! Simple as that!


It's not as simple as that. 

Increasing taxes on a certain class is not going to do anything to do the deficit.  Especially when people like you advocate more government programs such as health care. 

The only thing you do is make excuses on why one class of people should pay for the laziness of another.




on Jan 05, 2008
And even if raising taxes were to increase receipts, the government would simply spend more and you'd still have deficit spending.
on Jan 06, 2008
Reply By: Island DogPosted: Saturday, January 05, 2008
What I am saying is that because of the deficit we need more tax revenue and the rich are the only group that can afford to pay more with out causing them any harm! Simple as that!
It's not as simple as that. Increasing taxes on a certain class is not going to do anything to do the deficit. Especially when people like you advocate more government programs such as health care.


Adding about $200 billion to the income from higher taxes from the top 10% will help pay for what we spend!
on Jan 06, 2008
Adding about $200 billion to the income from higher taxes from the top 10% will help pay for what we spend!




you still don't get it. let me put it so you can understand it. THE MORE MONEY YOU GIVE THE GOVERNMENT THE MORE THEY SPEND. so if you want to cut the deficit then you first have to get them to stop spending all of the extra stuff that we don't need. by the way the pork this year was just over 200 billion.
on Jan 06, 2008
Reply | Edit | DeleteReply By: danielostPosted: Sunday, January 06, 2008
Adding about $200 billion to the income from higher taxes from the top 10% will help pay for what we spend!
you still don't get it. let me put it so you can understand it. THE MORE MONEY YOU GIVE THE GOVERNMENT THE MORE THEY SPEND. so if you want to cut the deficit then you first have to get them to stop spending all of the extra stuff that we don't need. by the way the pork this year was just over 200 billion.


YOU DO NOT GET IT-- WE MUST BALANCE THE BUDGET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
on Jan 07, 2008
YOU DO NOT GET IT-- WE MUST BALANCE THE BUDGET!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



i got that part. but you are not going to do it by simple giving the government more money to spend. you will note that i have not stated anything about party here. they are both just as guilty with spending to much money.
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