Yes it is and I showed you why it is. You conveniently just ignored it. That is typical. You never answer the argument, you just repeat what you say.

I told you how these two votes objected to methods which would not have achieved the objective of "protecting Children" and would have caused other problems. but you still accused him of allowing "evil" to harm children.

the fact that he disagreed with you on the way to protect children doesnt make him as you accused him of being.

and if his middle name is a criterion for indicating his background and heritage, how come you are not using the same with other candidates?

If you like to discuss the effect of the environment in which he grew up, just say so openly not just use his middle name. Stop hiding under the radar.

If you have objections and questions , nothing wrong at all with talking about them in clear terms. not under the radar of a middle name which doesnt mean a thing for anyone.

why dont you say how old was he when he left those schools? and after all those years of being christian, now you question his faith? and on what basis you doing that?

just assumptions on your part or do you have something concrete to tell you he is not faithful to his religion?

that is how you address the issue not just use his middle name.

Or was your objective is to create doubt in other people's minds and just leave it at that? that is exactly what is dishonest and deceitful about your "under the radar" strategy.

of course it is. but we must present the facts in an honest way not put it in a way to achieve political goals. He is not against protecting children, and i told you the logic behind those two votes. You didnt even try to adress that. you just continued to reapeat the same wrong accusations. This dishonest representation of political positions is what is dividing this country. we can disagree on the best ways to do things but we will never do anything as long as half of us follow dishonest way of discussing the issues.

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Think ALoud,

Get real and honest. Internet pornography is evil. With just one click children can bring up a pornographic site, or image, etc. on the screen. Filters are designed to prevent that and thereby protect children from the evil of internet pornography.

All children in this world have a right to be protected from evil....and it is the duty and responsibility for the adults in this world, especially Congressmen, including liberals pushing socialism, like Barack Hussein Obama, to protect our children at every opportunity. Barack Hussein Obama failed miserably on this one opportunity to vote for internet filters and protect children from the evil of internet pornography.



Barack Hussein Obama's Wahabisim background and Muslim heritage is what it is...be honest and deal with it.



At most, I've only raised awareness about the man. I trust that people upon knowing the facts about the person and issues can decide for themselves.






Concerning his Christianity......how many years has he been a Christian? I quite frankly dont't know. It certainly wasn't while he was growing up. Yes, I question his profession of faith...(just as I do Rudy Guiliani, a Catholic hypocrite). The basis on which I question Obama's profession of faith is that he obviously prefers man's laws over God's Laws particularly in obedience to the Commandment, "Thou shalt not kill" which certainly includes innocent, defenseless babies in the womb. In 2002, he voted against a bill to protect babies that survived failed abortions. These positions contrast 100% with keeping the Christian faith.





Well, the facts are...he is..and that's all there is to it.



There is nothing I've said here that is "under the radar". Calling me dishonest and now deceitful or saying that I've falsely accused or been misleading is getting tiring. It also doesn't change the facts one iota about Barack Hussein Obama character and voting record.

I am trying to get you to do that. It is nothing to deal with as far as I am concerned. The man IS christian with a Muslim father who left him looong time ago. It is you who should deal with it honestly and openly not with winks and false assumptions. If you dont like him as a devoted christian, just say that too. for me, it doesnt matter whether he is Muslim or Christian, that is his business. what matters is his politics now and in the past.



Lula, you dont have to convince me of that. I know it is evil and danger to children. But again, you ignore what i said. It is HOW we protect them from that not whether. We disagree on the method, that doesnt make me or Obama aginst protecting children.



and they contradict Islam's too. so what is your point?

You really dont look at things with a wider perspective at all.

If his "wahabi" heritage had ANY effect on him at ALL, he would be before you banning all internet access (not just filtering it) and porn stores in the USA. how is that for his heritage?

but you accuse him of not protecting kids from porn, is that possible for someone with "whabi" heritage?

according to you, there is nothing wrong with "under the radar" strategy. It is all ok with you. your pants are catching fire Lula .... Jesus will be very upset with you  

He is NOT against "protecting children" but you still accuse him of that.

"Even in Germany"...

The German media hail absolutely everyone who isn't Bush as the second coming of JFK.

That doesn't mean anything. I would have been surprised if the German media had not treated Obama as the next Messiah.

Incidentally, Ron Paul is never mentioned in the German media. In fact, no right-wing opponents of George Bush are ever mentioned. For all Germany knows George Bush is the most right-wing Nazi who ever lived and Obama is good because he is black.

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ThinkAloud,
With all due respect, I've hardly ignored what you said. Disagreeing isn't ignoring. Pure and simple: Barack Hussein Obama's who when given the chance refused to protect children by having filters installed on school computers.



The most direct effecient method of HOW we protect children in schools from internet pornography is to INSTALL FILTERS. This isn't complicated.