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Bush to Bremer - Don't worry about it
Published on October 5, 2004 By COL Gene In Politics
Everyday more and more becomes public knowledge about Iraq . The CIA, in response to a request from VP Dick Cheney, undercuts the rational of Bush and Cheney that there was a conection between Saddam Hussein and al-Qaida. This is a separate conclusion from the 9/11 Commission. Today reports were released that Former Ambassador L. Paul Bremer acknowledged that we did not have enough troops in Iraq and that he told President Bush we needed more troops. On Monday night Ambassador Bremer addressing a group in Sulpher Springs, W. Va said, When he arrived in Iraq May 6, 2003 he found "horrid" looting and a very unstable situation. "We paid a big price for not stopping it because it establish an atmosphere of lawlessness" " We never had enough troops on the ground" Bremer said. He also said that he pleaded for more troops with President Bush. When the White House was asked about this, Scott McClellan would not confirm that Ambassador Bremer had ask Bush for more troops.

President Bush has told Congress and the American People that if he had been asked for more troops they would have been provided. We now have the chief US Administrator in Iraq telling us that was a lie. We now have President Bush failing to take the advice in the planning stage as to the troops required when the Army CoS told Bush it would take several hundred thousand, "boots on the ground". Now we have information that shows the President failed to provide the forces required when the War was underway and lied to us when he said if more troops were required they would have been provided. This is the "strong Leadership" we are asked to return to the White House as the Commander-in-Chief for another four years.

It will be interesting to see how President Bush and his "SPIN DOCTORS" try and dicredit, Ambassador Bremer, the man in charge during the Iraq War!

Comments
on Oct 05, 2004
A fragmented quote, taken out of context, from an off-the-record source. The quote has been stated NOT to have been to the group, but in a conversation after he addressed them. Goes to show how hard you gals have to grasp to get your ammunition. More nothing from COL Nothing...

P.S. If you are going to quote directly, you better link your source, or cite it. You weren't there to hear Mr Bremer, and the quotes being passed from asshat to asshat today seem to be morphing mysteriously...
on Oct 05, 2004
Source, Associated Press reported on Earthlink.net 10/5/2004. The quotes are streight forward. Bush lied, Bremer asked for more troops and the Army CoS told Bush the same thing, BEFORE the War started. Could not be more clear - Bush screwed up big time!
on Oct 05, 2004
Here's a quote from Bremer: 'Bremer, in a speech last month at DePauw University in Indiana, said he had raised within the Bush administration the issue of too few troops and "should have been even more insistent" when his advice was rejected.'" That would seem to backup COL Gene's point. His opinion is consistent with that of Generals Zinni and Shinseki.
on Oct 05, 2004
Also see the MSNBC article I linked in "On Iraq and the UN"
on Oct 06, 2004
The final report of the chief U.S. Arms inspector is about to be released and it puts another nail in the in the Bush argument of why he went into Iraq. Saddam Hussein did not have WMD.
on Oct 06, 2004

Reply #3 By: blogic - 10/5/2004 5:51:53 PM
Here's a quote from Bremer: 'Bremer, in a speech last month at DePauw University in Indiana, said he had raised within the Bush administration the issue of too few troops and "should have been even more insistent" when his advice was rejected.'" That would seem to backup COL Gene's point. His opinion is consistent with that of Generals Zinni and Shinseki.


That may very well be but, it's *not* consistent with his ground commander Gen Franks. Besides his comment was made *after* we were already there.
from yahoo news

Remarks this week by L. Paul Bremer, former U.S. administrator in occupied Iraq, suggested he argued for more troops in the immediate aftermath of the invasion, when looting was rampant. A spokesman for Bush's re-election campaign said Bremer indeed differed with military commanders.



And if you ever been in battle you know you don't second guess the man in charge! And Gen Franks was the *man* in charge NOT Paul Bremer!
on Oct 06, 2004
drmiler - By your lodgic, Bush should have allowed the Army CoS to set the troop levels required during the early planning stage. Who better than the head of the Army should know what is need in a ground war. Now as to GEN Franks, if you read, "Plan of Attack", by Bob Woodward, you will see that during the specific planning stages for the war in Iraq, General Franks did say that numbers in the 400,000 - 300,000 range were needed. Take a look at pages 40 and 96 for example. The force levels were NOT what the Generals said were required in the planning stages and like it or not, Bremer was the senior U.S. Official in Iraq during the war. He told Bush we needed more troops. By that time, the generals on the ground had sceen what happened when you speak your mind to Rummy and Bush - You GO AWAY just like the Army CoS!

Bush must have used that vast knowledge he obtained in the Texas Air National Guard rather than the knowlede and advice of his most senior military and civilian officials.
on Oct 06, 2004
Sounds liike Bremer has issue with the military commanders, not Bush. 
on Oct 06, 2004
Generals Zinni and Shinseki warned Bush -- before the war -- that he was sending far too few troops.
on Oct 06, 2004

That's nice. And I regularly get managers that tell me things that my directors don't agree with. Does that make the managers right?

Tell me blogic, is reality merely defined by whoever says what you want to hear? If the commanding generals wanted more troops, they could have gotten them. It's not like Bush had some political reason to not send more troops if we needed them.  He authorized what the commanders requested. You will always find some that disagree. Just like in any business you will have managers second guessing their bosses.

on Oct 06, 2004
Reply to draginol

No Bremer reported to Bush and it was Bush to whom he went for more troops. Since General Franks wanted several hundred thousand when he planned the war, it does not seem there is a disagrement between Franks and Bremer. The problem has been and is President Bush! Bush likes that saying: Rule 1. The Boss is always right. Rule 2. When the Boss is wrong, re-read rule 1.
on Oct 06, 2004
"It's not like Bush had some political reason to not send more troops if we needed them".

With all the current concerns about a possible draft -- not that I'm predicting it'll happen, just saying that polling shows people care about it -- and the fact that there have been a number of reports that worldwide American forces are at the limit of what they can do; I would say there was an obvious political reason to avoid using more troops. Bush and Rumsfeld were right about "winning" the war -- they did have enough troops -- but they were wrong about winning the peace, and had been repeatedly warned -- before the war began -- that they were making a major mistake.
on Oct 06, 2004
Reply to blogic

You are 100% correct. Our Military did a great job to bring down Saddam and his army. We did not have the resources to stop terrorists from comming intro Iraq over their boarders; we did not have forces to protect the oil , water and electrical systems; we could not secure the Ammo Dumps and we could not control the populated areas including the cities we by passed during phase one of the war. This is what Bush and Rumsfeld ignored and is why we are in the disasterous situation of today. That error has cost many Ameican lives! The "BUCK" for this stops at President Bush!
on Oct 06, 2004
No Bremer reported to Bush and it was Bush to whom he went for more troops. Since General Franks wanted several hundred thousand when he planned the war, it does not seem there is a disagrement between Franks and Bremer. The problem has been and is President Bush! Bush likes that saying: Rule 1. The Boss is always right. Rule 2. When the Boss is wrong, re-read rule 1.


Actually we are finding out that the 'Mister Nice' Diplomat brought poison to the relationship between Iraqi and US Personnel working on Reconstruction, so much the poison the two are not on speaking terms.

- GX
on Oct 06, 2004
Bush maintained that Amb. Bremer was doing just fine. The bottom line is we do not have control and things get worse daily. There is no end in sight and we do not know what the new Iraq governmnet will be like. This was a fools War that has NOT made us safer and only God knows how many more young men and women will die because of the choice Bush made to start this War!