Evaluation of the policies of George W. Bush and his Republican conservatives on America.
Does he inspire unity and cooperation?
Published on October 12, 2004 By COL Gene In Politics
When the voter during the second debate asked President Bush to name three mistakes he made as president, George W. displayed one of his greatest short commings - his inability to recognize flaws in himself, even when they are obvious.

In the 2000 presidential campaign, George W. pledged to restore more civility to American politics. Surely one of the mistakes that President Bush should have acknowledged to the voters question was that he had failed to achieve this pledge. In fact, he has made the rancor and political unrest much worse than at any time in modern times. Not since the American Civil War has there been more political unrest in America.

His failure to accomplish this is a clear indication of his inability to be an effective leader. His approach has done the very same thing with many people throught the world. Look at the reception he received when is addressed the U N last month - Dead Silence. The only applause came when he was about to leave the podium. It was as if their applause was to reflect his departure not at what he had to say.

The left in America hold George W. in distain. Most Democrats, if they are honest with themselves, will be voting aginst Bush more then for Senator Kerry. Their feelings are not because George W. is a Republican but because of his attitude and his total rejection of any positions that do not fit with the wishes of the conservatives. The right is just as bad or worse. People like Rush Limbaugh spew out their narrow minded positions at every opportunity. The conservatives can not complete a sentenence without blasting the Libs. They have only slightly less distain for the moderate Republicans, like myself. If you do not support the conservative ideas you are stupid according to profit, Rush! He claims that he ties half his brain behind his back to make it fair to the Libs. The truth is that if Rush had a brain twice its size, he could not complete a rational thought.

President Bush's answer to the question, name three mistakes you have made should surely have included his inability to bring cooperation and civility to American Politics. George Bush is strong but he is NOT a leader. A leader is one who has the ability to get people to go to a place they would not go by themselves. That is not George W. Bush. For that reason alone, America needs a change. We do not need another four years of devisiveness. We need a true leader that can unite America and enhance cooperation with the other nations of this world.

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on Oct 12, 2004
George W. Bush is a very, very strong leader;
one of the strongest our country has ever had

some other strong World leaders that come to mind are,
joseph stalin and adolph hitler

pete


Yes and I believe Kerry is just as strong a leader.

He would be comparable to even other strong world leaders who have existed.

Some of those Strong world leaders that come to my mind are Mao Tse Tung, Ho Chi Minh, Pol Pot, Manuel Noriega, and Fidel Castro.

All is fair in love and war!

Speaking of Stalin and Hitler, did you know Stalin was a Conservative while Hitler was a Liberal?


- Grim X

on Oct 12, 2004
I agree with you drmiller, and while the comparison is not apropo, I see that the point he's trying to make is that a strong leader isn't always a good thing. However, let me counter with this: nothing in and of itself is good or bad. Only how it is used may be judged. We cannot question whether GW is a strong leader because he is (according to the post in question) but we should question whether he uses his power, his characteristics, for evil or for good.

As you so clearly point out, the two he mentioned killed A LOT of people. And i know the pascifist crowd clambers to say, "but so has he!" Yet the comparision is still moot when it comes down to it. Everyone knows it. It's like comparing a police captain with a serial killer and saying they're equally bad because they both kill people. Perhaps GW is more like the mayor that presides over the police force, but the perfect metaphor is a myth I believe. You get the point.

Now, we question this: Has he used his traits for good or evil. Certainly not the evil caused by Stalin or Hitler. It's really beyond reality and a bit nutty to compare Bush with Hitler. We're talking cruel, hate-filled, and all that rubbish. If this is a place for reason, certainly this will stand. The same with Stalin. I think GW is for a strong America that stands firmly without a walking stick or aid from the world and equally without heavy weights placed upon our head. I think inherently this is a good goal. Does he go about it in the right way? Well, that's more for the history books, eh? They'll write whatever they want, regardless of the truth. Look at Churchill. As for diplomacy... it doesn't always work. It hasn't got a good record for us. Why not try something new? If you've ever taught high schoolers, you know diplomacy only works for so long before you HAVE to strong-arm things, despite what the kids in other classes think of you. There I go with those metaphors again...
on Oct 12, 2004
"You know, when we have a leader of any group, that leader has to stand up for what is right"



What makes you think he's right?
on Oct 12, 2004

Reply #18 By: Donna G - 10/12/2004 9:23:42 PM
"You know, when we have a leader of any group, that leader has to stand up for what is right"



What makes you think he's right?


What makes you think he's not? That sword cuts both ways.
on Oct 12, 2004
As for diplomacy... it doesn't always work. It hasn't got a good record for us. Why not try something new? If you've ever taught high schoolers, you know diplomacy only works for so long before you HAVE to strong-arm things[\quote]

I don't think W gave diplomacy much of a chance at all. More of a chance was given in Afghanistan, our original goal, than was given in Iraq (which I still fail to see the connection as to why we occupied Iraq).
on Oct 12, 2004
Just a little humor, don't everyone flame me at once.

Since the rest of the above post didn't show...

Shulamite, you're the most civilized debator I've seen on JU, it's refreshing to read your posts.
on Oct 12, 2004
To judge if a leader is leading in the right direction, you must look at the impact they have on the people they lead. Hitler destroyed the German nation and people. I agree, George W. is nothing like Hitler etc. He however, has only helped a small segment of the American People. In his first speech after taking office he said he was President of ALL the American People. His problem, is that what he wants and has put into place is not helping the vast majority of Americans. He has done almost nothing for those at the bottom 25%. Their lives are worse than 4 year ago. Some of the 70 % in the middle have been helped to some extent but the impact has not been universal . His tax cuts for the middle income families is good but the deficit, lack of energy policy, health care, not funding education and the Iraq war have made the lives of many in the middle worse than 4 years age. The failure of his economic policies to create jobs for the 5 million new workers that joined the work force since Jan 2001 is not the actions of a good leader. He has shifted the tax burden more to the middle income worker to give the wealthy something they do not need and we can not afford.

The only group that has benefitted from almost every policy of George W. are the wealthiest 5%. That is not being the President of All THE PEOPLE! That is not being a good leader for our country.
on Oct 13, 2004
don't talk about Rush until you have looked in a mirror!Especially since just about every word out of you mouth is a narrow minded position on Bush.
Oh, COL has to look into the mirror but Rush doesn't?
on Oct 13, 2004
George W. Bush is not a leader. He is more comparable to a bully who rules the school yard through fear and intimidation. He is the most dangerous kind of commander in chief, in that he is unreceptive and inflexible. Through his bravado like persona of attack first and ask questions later, he has set civility and democracy back hundreds of years.
Good girl! Bring it on!!
on Oct 13, 2004

Reply #23 By: stevendedalus - 10/13/2004 1:08:28 AM
don't talk about Rush until you have looked in a mirror!Especially since just about every word out of you mouth is a narrow minded position on Bush.
Oh, COL has to look into the mirror but Rush doesn't?


I didn't say that now did I? I didn't imply it either! So get a grip dude. The fact remains that every word out of the Col's mouth is anti-bush yet he acuses Rush of "spewing out narrow minded opinions at every opportunity". To me thats the pot calling the kettle black. Hence my post.
on Oct 13, 2004
drmiler

I have documented every fact I have used in my Blogs in my book. You are the one that claims these facts are "anti-bush". Thus it is you not me that is anti-bush.

If you favor killing our young American men and women in a war that did not have to be and that is not making us more safe - vote Bush.

If you want millions of new workers to roam the streets without a job - vote Bush.

If you want to go deeper into debt every day - vote Bush.

If you want to continue to pay high prices for oil and prescription drugs - vote Bush.

If you want to continue to see American jobs go to other countries - vote Bush.

If you want to see a larger share of the tax burden shifted from the wealthy to the middle income Americans - vote Bush

If you want to continue to ignore the impending financial problems with Social Security and Medicare - vote Bush.

EVERY ONE OF THE ABOVE IS FACTUAL. YOU JUDGE IF THEY ARE PRO OR ANTI- BUSH! Facts are Facts You judge how they reflect of George W. They are the results of his policies!
on Oct 13, 2004
Reply to cartoon by apdelong31

GREAT Cartoon!!!!!!!! That fits Bush to a Tee!
on Oct 13, 2004

Reply #26 By: COL Gene - 10/13/2004 6:44:58 AM
drmiler

I have documented every fact I have used in my Blogs in my book. You are the one that claims these facts are "anti-bush". Thus it is you not me that is anti-bush


That is the BIGGEST load of BS I've ever heard!
on Oct 13, 2004

Reply #26 By: COL Gene - 10/13/2004 6:44:58 AM
drmiler

I have documented every fact I have used in my Blogs in my book. You are the one that claims these facts are "anti-bush". Thus it is you not me that is anti-bush.

If you favor killing our young American men and women in a war that did not have to be and that is not making us more safe - vote Bush.

If you want millions of new workers to roam the streets without a job - vote Bush.

If you want to go deeper into debt every day - vote Bush.

If you want to continue to pay high prices for oil and prescription drugs - vote Bush.

If you want to continue to see American jobs go to other countries - vote Bush.

If you want to see a larger share of the tax burden shifted from the wealthy to the middle income Americans - vote Bush

If you want to continue to ignore the impending financial problems with Social Security and Medicare - vote Bush.

EVERY ONE OF THE ABOVE IS FACTUAL. YOU JUDGE IF THEY ARE PRO OR ANTI- BUSH! Facts are Facts You judge how they reflect of George W. They are the results of his policies!


There is no judgement to this! You say something bad is happening and that if you want it to continue that way to vote for Bush. If that isn't anti-Bush I don't know what is. BTW just an FYI I WILL BE voting FOR Bush!
on Oct 13, 2004
drmiler

Every section on my book states the source. The information is correct. Some of the more important references I used are:

OMB (Office of Management and Budget)

CBO (Congressional Budget5 Office)

Dept of the Treasury, bureau of public debt

Hoover Institute

Brookings Institute

The Army War College

Former Tres Sec O'Neil and the Current Fed Chairman

Former Army CoS and several other 4 Star Generals

I have sited at least 28 unimpeachable sources.

Like it or not, my date is factual even though you believe it is not flattering to George W.
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