Evaluation of the policies of George W. Bush and his Republican conservatives on America.
Published on November 30, 2004 By COL Gene In Politics
The reception President Bush received today in Canada is a true embarrassment to the United States of America. We have a president who was despised by our closest neighbor and by the people of most of the European nations.

I cannot remember a time when the world had so little regard for our nation. The story is the same no matter were you turn with very few exceptions -- the United States is not trusted and our president is looked upon as an arrogant go it alone leader. It is hard to see how the next four years will benefit the people of our country or mend the huge rifts that exist between the United States and much of the rest of the world.

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on Nov 30, 2004
I think that lost in this discussion is the fact that because Bush, for whatever reasons, is not respected by most of the free and not so free world, leaves us vulnerable as a country.


And that's why 9/11 happened? Because Bush invaded Iraq and the world was pissed at him?
on Nov 30, 2004

Reply #28 By: dabe - 11/30/2004 7:58:23 PM
COL Gene, I'm with ya 100%. Truly, it's embarrassing to think that we would be associated with the most arrogant, self-serving lying sack of shit in the free world. I can honestly say that bush will never represent me, I will never accept him as my "leader", and I'm just going to endure him, as will millions of others like me, for four years, because we have no choice.


Whether or not you accept him or whether you like it or not he is your "leader"!
on Nov 30, 2004
Thanks for your comments. I will try. Take a look at my book, Four More For George W? It looks at the major issues and I did try to make sure the Grammar and Spell check were used.


COL Gene - I want to apologize for being a jerk earlier. I deal with spelling and grammar every day in class and not only do I have to make sure my students are using English correctly, but I also have to make certain that these service members are using Korean properly, too. Sometimes I get on a high horse about it. I shouldn't have taken a swipe at your book. That was completely uncalled for.
on Nov 30, 2004
Reply #28 By: dabe - 11/30/2004 7:58:23 PM
COL Gene, I'm with ya 100%. Truly, it's embarrassing to think that we would be associated with the most arrogant, self-serving lying sack of shit in the free world. I can honestly say that bush will never represent me, I will never accept him as my "leader", and I'm just going to endure him, as will millions of others like me, for four years, because we have no choice.


Well... you had a choice... and no doubt probably chose to vote for Kerry. However, your choice was overruled by the choices of other fellow Americans.

You have a choice. You just were on the loosing side of the fight.

Well, you go on and endure now. I'm done with my soap-box for the time being.

Peace,

Beebes
on Dec 01, 2004
Well, you go on and endure now.


That's exactly what I'm doing.
on Dec 01, 2004
Chiprj

I understand. I do need to be more careful.

Jackmouve

Yes, that is the important issue. We need the help of other nations today and the reception Bush is getting in most countries does not help. The idea that he is a strong leader and that is good for America is incorrect. A strong leader going in the wrong direction is not good for those being lead. Saddam was the strong leader of Iraq! Bush can not bring himself to change even when the course he has set does not work. If Bush started from his home in Texas for San Francisco in a north east direction, he would " stay the course". He would never get to his intended destination but he would have remained on course.
on Dec 01, 2004

Hey Beebes, if you support Bush shouldn't sign off "WAR" instead of "Peace".
Hey Messybu, is nonsense arguments like yours really helpful or support your side of the argument?
Hey chiprj, attacking people spelling is a good tactic when you can't argue your point, isn't it.

There's alot of good arguments against Bush on this post (the Canadian above) and on alot of the other posts and the pro-Bush guys don't try to discuse any of them. Just name calling and making fun of spelling. Dismissing the disdain for America as jealosy? How arrogant! And it's exactly this arrogance I can't stand and which is perfectly displayed in Bush's conduct.

Of course it matters what other people think of you. That's why Bush is in Canada and then going to Europe, he's trying to get some help with the huge mess he's made in Iraq. The problem is Bush is the most powerful man in the world and he should embody the ideals of compassion, intelligence, wisdom, and have an air of worldliness. Instead he's close-minded, ignorant and only concerned with his own backyard. He says stupiud things like "I do what I think is right!" in defence of his action - but that's how everybody in the world opperates. A leader has to weigh in the opinions of all people and do what's right on a political/social level and not on a personal level. He's not really a political leader anyway, just a washed up businessman - and how do money grubbing business men like Bush and Cheney become qualified to care for the welfare of a nation when there only past experience is trying to make as much money for themselves as possible. People like that should be the last people to help their countries people - but all you need is money these days and you can rule - or bomb - the world.

Anyways, I'm off to protest Bush right now - I'm here in Halifax.
on Dec 01, 2004
Hey Messybu, is nonsense arguments like yours really helpful or support your side of the argument?


How is it nonsense? Are you saying we weren't vulnerable before the world hated Bush?
on Dec 01, 2004
Hey chiprj, attacking people spelling is a good tactic when you can't argue your point, isn't it.


HAHA! I thought I did touch on the point (at least a little). I really don't care what some Canadians think about our president. Just like your opinion of our president really doesn't matter to me either. And I don't think that this instance was indicative of what Canada, as a whole, feels. Oddly (or not), just like your opinion isn't indicative of what our country thinks of the president. Just my opinion, though, and you know exactly how much coffee that will get me...
on Dec 01, 2004

"And that's why 9/11 happened? Because Bush invaded Iraq and the world was pissed at him?" - This is what I mean by nonsense, everyone knows that this is nonsense if only because your timeline runs backward. I could easily flip this statement and it would make much more sense. "Bush invaded Iraq because 9/11 happened?" This is what he originally told us before he 'flip-flopped'. "No, it's about WMD's. Wait, there is none? It's about freeing the Iraq people." How do you free people by dropping bombs on them? This is a question Bush can't and won't answer.

It's great that all the American's think so highly of themselves and so Nationalistic and don't care what any other nation thinks of them. It reminds me of the German menality before Hitler lead them into his "evil vs good" war. At least Hitler was a good speaker.
Truthfully this is one opinion out of many - and the job of a leader is to gauge and compromise with the millions of different opinions there are - not to run unilaterally with your own opinion and holding your ears like a child when the rest of the world gives you their's.

"Are you saying we weren't vulnerable before the world hated Bush?" - Of course not, everyone in the world is vulnerable from everyone else, nothing can change that, you can't live in an isolated bubble. But now, because of Bush, I imagine you have double or more the amount of enemys then every before. Every war that you start kindles a whole generation of child - if they survive - that will forever disdain the US.

Fustrated beyond belief...
on Dec 01, 2004

Reply #38 By: mismos - 12/1/2004 8:39:24 AM

Hey Beebes, if you support Bush shouldn't sign off "WAR" instead of "Peace".
Hey Messybu, is nonsense arguments like yours really helpful or support your side of the argument?
Hey chiprj, attacking people spelling is a good tactic when you can't argue your point, isn't it.

There's alot of good arguments against Bush on this post (the Canadian above) and on alot of the other posts and the pro-Bush guys don't try to discuse any of them. Just name calling and making fun of spelling. Dismissing the disdain for America as jealosy? How arrogant! And it's exactly this arrogance I can't stand and which is perfectly displayed in Bush's conduct.

Of course it matters what other people think of you.


Of course it matters. But should it be an overwhelming priority? NO! What other countries think of us should not be allowed to change the course of events that we chose.

It's about freeing the Iraq people." How do you free people by dropping bombs on them? This is a question Bush can't and won't answer.


Get a grip! We are not bombing the people of Iraq, just the insurgents. And BTW take your non-american, anti-Bush attitude and place it where the sun don't shine.
on Dec 01, 2004
I think that all of you are too focused on the negatives.

I think that President Bush is extremely capable of galvanizing support against America and American interests.

He may be a divisive force domestically, but he has gone a long way toward uniting the world.

(It is kind of embarassing however that he draws such protests wherever he goes.)
on Dec 01, 2004
I think that all of you are too focused on the negatives.

I think that President Bush is extremely capable of galvanizing support against America and American interests.

He may be a divisive force domestically, but he has gone a long way toward uniting the world.

(It is kind of embarassing however that he draws such protests wherever he goes.)
on Dec 01, 2004
This is what he originally told us before he 'flip-flopped'.


I'd like to see when he said this.

Of course not, everyone in the world is vulnerable from everyone else, nothing can change that, you can't live in an isolated bubble. But now, because of Bush, I imagine you have double or more the amount of enemys then every before. Every war that you start kindles a whole generation of child - if they survive - that will forever disdain the US.


So you admit that we were vulnerable before 9/11 and the world didn't like us then either. So perhaps you guys shouldn't act as if we weren't, and I really doubt anybody could argue (with substantial evidence) that we're less safe because of Iraq. Remember, 9/11 happened before Bush's "imperialism."
on Dec 01, 2004

HAHA. Yes, you're not bombing the people of Iraq, just the "insurgents" - which really means, you're not bombing the people of Iraq, just the people of Iraq that don't like being bombed. YOU GET A GRIP. Everyone in Iraq are people of Iraq. That's very basic reasoning for you.

Of course other countries shouldn't dictate what you should do, but when they are so overwhelmingly against it, can you stop and reflect? If America is so keen on democracy then what about a little world democracy. Even though you have democracy and are spreading it, your leader acts as a dictator, and even wishes he was by his comments. He is an enemy of democracy. - Here's where you go -"ya but you're an idiot, stick it where...". Mature dialogue.

Don't like my opinion, then F**kin bomb me then. That would be inline with you current strategy.

Dude, simply put, people are scared of War, and the re-election of Bush puts World War III at our doorstep.

"When asked how World War III would be fought, Einstein replied that he didn't know. But he knew how World War IV would be fought: With sticks and stones! "
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