Bush may lose by Iraq Vote!

Published on February 4, 2005 By COL Gene In Politics

Voter turnout in Iraq, which created euphoria in the Bush administration, could turn out to be a nightmare for this country. Although it is too early to have the final results from the election, it appears that the Shiite clerics hold a commanding lead.

The net result of the Iraqi election could be the creation of a government similar to the type of government in Iran. We have been unable to deal with the Iranian government for decades and if what results in Iraq is similar to the government in Iran, George W. Bush may have succeeded in turning an evil dictatorship into another Islamic regime that poses an additional threat to the United States and the West. If that is the result of this election, it is certainly no way to enhance the security of the United States or other nations plagued by the violent Islamic insurrection that is taking place.

Comments (Page 1)

Daiwa

on Feb 04, 2005

Yeah, yeah. Right. I was going to rebut this, then recognized it would be a waste of time to argue about hypothetical BS.

Later,
Daiwa

COL Gene

on Feb 04, 2005

Bush tells us that we must judge by results. I agree 100%. Events over the next year or so will enable ALL to evaluate how well George W. did with his Iraq War!

Suspeckted

on Feb 04, 2005

it will be interesting to see what happens here, we'll probably just send some special forces to take out whoever we don't like anyway.

-Suspeckted

PS - I believe you meant "lose" not "loose"

Jamie Burnside

on Feb 04, 2005

So is Daiwa saying that there isn't sentiment in the Iraqi voting public that could lead to an Islamic theocracy?

Especially in these troubled times in Iraq, there would seem to be some incentive to eastablis Iran West.

Myrrander

on Feb 04, 2005

Bush may lose what? I thought he already won a second term.

bakerstreet

on Feb 04, 2005

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Nice way to hedge your bets. After saying that this sort of thing was impossible in Iraq, now you are going to bitch because you don't like who the people there choose. Retreat, regroup, find a cloud for every silver lining, whine about them...

Sucks for you, I guess, but Democracy is pretty much defined by the people choosing who they like. If you don't like that, you are urged to move to Iraq and take part in the process. Obviously your heavy-handed propagandizing didn't work here in the last election, so maybe a change of venue is just the thing!

drmiler

on Feb 04, 2005

By: COL Gene
Posted: Friday, February 04, 2005 on Bush Truth
Message Board: Politics

Voter turnout in Iraq, which created euphoria in the Bush administration, could turn out to be a nightmare for this country. Although it is too early to have the final results from the election, it appears that the Shiite clerics hold a commanding lead.

The net result of the Iraqi election could be the creation of a government similar to the type of government in Iran. We have been unable to deal with the Iranian government for decades and if what results in Iraq is similar to the government in Iran, George W. Bush may have succeeded in turning an evil dictatorship into another Islamic regime that poses an additional threat to the United States and the West. If that is the result of this election, it is certainly no way to enhance the security of the United States or other nations plagued by the violent Islamic insurrection that is taking place.

Woulda, shoulda, "coulda". Instead to doom and gloom saying why don't we just wait and see. There isn't a damn thing we can do about it now, is there?

bakerstreet

on Feb 04, 2005

" Woulda, shoulda, "coulda". Instead to doom and gloom saying why don't we just wait and see. There isn't a damn thing we can do about it now, is there?"

The sick part is if we DID somehow prevent a cleric from legitimately winning, Mr. Gene would be right back here bitching about how we subverted Democracy in Iraq. This isn't a "point" per se, it is another jab at Bush. The content is meaningless, only the damage dealt.

COL Gene

on Feb 04, 2005

Myrrander

You are correct Bush has won. It will be America that will lose if Iraq turns into another Iran. How would that improve our security?

bakerstreet

on Feb 04, 2005

So... what are you saying? That Iraq can only be a Democracy if they pick someone palatable to us? What do you suggest?

I think the short answer is that you suggest nothing, since Iraq isn't the point... bashing Bush is the point...

COL Gene

on Feb 04, 2005

What I am saying in that 1,400 lives; 10,000 combat injuries and 15,000 non combat injuries and $300 Billion dollars is not worth creating another Iran!

bakerstreet

on Feb 04, 2005

"What I am saying in that 1,400 lives; 10,000 combat injuries and 15,000 non combat injuries and $300 Billion dollars is not worth creating another Iran!"

So the freedom to choose your own government isn't worth that sacrifice? WTF? You can't twist this any further than you have or it will fall off...

Should we have said "We'll only liberate you from Hussein if you give us the right to veto your election decisions"? That would have been a propaganda boon for you, huh?

So, I guess we should have left Hussein there, since the people might have chosen something else unpalatable. Hell, maybe the Revolutionary War was a waste, since we could make a bad election decision, too.

I guess the rule should be leave all the evils of the world where they are, lest we make a bigger mess. The Chinese applaud you, Col., that is their S.O.P.

COL Gene

on Feb 04, 2005

If Iran West replaces Saddam, we have not improved our security and have used our human and financial resources to create another security problem. Saddam should have been removed by the moslems in that area not by American Troops! If you spent your money to replace a car that did not work for another car that did not work, would you be happy with your purchase? That will be what we did if the new government in Iraq is anther Iran!

bakerstreet

on Feb 04, 2005

"If you spent your money to replace a car that did not work for another car that did not work, would you be happy with your purchase? That will be what we did if the new government in Iraq is anther Iran!"

No, we gave the people in Iraq the right to buy their own car. What they make of it is the very definition of freedom. If someone told you they'd help you get a car, and then forced you go buy a car you didn't want, would that be freedom?

If we told them that they couldn't become what they want, then we wouldn't be offering them much in the way of freedom, would we? It is funny how anti-Bush folks can be so "what's in it for me", until a conservative says it, and then they are so magnanimous.

COL Gene

on Feb 04, 2005

I for one do not want to risk the lives of our young people unless we are in danger. If the new governmnet in Iraq is like the government in Iran, that freedom you talk about will not last and we will have another problem to deal with. Time will tell. I can remenber when we were told that if South Vietnam fell to the north all southeast Asia would go to hell. That did not happen just as Iraq was no danger to the United States under Saddam.

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