Evaluation of the policies of George W. Bush and his Republican conservatives on America.
Published on November 13, 2005 By COL Gene In Politics


The National Guard service of George W. Bush is all over the TV news shows. Most of the coverage fails to address the service issues related to George Bush in the Texas Air National Guard.

This story has as the following major elements:

How did GWB get into the guard?

Did GWB fail to attend drills in 1972?

Did GWB fail to take a required flight physical which resulted in the loss of his flight status?

How did Bush obtain an early Honorable discharge?

How do the fake documents used by CBS impact the above questions?



The former speaker of the Texas House has stated publicly that he got George W. Bush into the guard. He also admitted he did the very same thing for the sons of other prominent Texans. The forged documents CBS used had no impact on how Bush got in the guard. He was given preferential treatment and was put ahead of about 100 other young men.


The pay records of GWB, releases by DoD show that for five months at the end of 1972, George W. Bush did not attend drills anywhere. In addition the National Guard personnel officer at the time Bush was in the guard stated that his failure to attend those drills meant that he did not have the required flight hours to maintain flight proficiency. The argument that he had enough drills in 1972 for a good retirement year DOES NOT answer the fact that those missed drills prevented him from completing the required flight time. The CBS documents have absolutely nothing to do with the Bush failure to attend those drills. That has been documented by the records released by DoD.

Documents released by the Department of Defense include order that grounded Lieutenant Bush for failure to take a required flight physical. In addition was the CBS letter from the Commander of Lt Bush directing him to take that physical that was fake. However, the Secretary to the commander of Lt Bush has stated she DID TYPE such a letter but states the actual letter CBS used was not the one she typed. Thus from the Grounding Order from DOD released records and the statements of the secretary it is clear Lt. Bush did not obey Air Force Regulations that require him to take a flight physical and he was grounded.




There is no disagreement that Bush obtained an early discharge from the Guard. There is no credible evidence I have seen that indicates how George W. Bush was able to obtain an early Honorable discharge from the National Guard. One question however that does deserve an answer is that how an officer who did not attend require drills and did not take a flight physical received an Honorable discharge? The military does not normally give an Honorable discharge to member that disobey regulations.

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on Nov 13, 2005
The trates that caused Bush to fail and meet his responsibilities 30 years ago in the Guard can be sceen today in his current failures. Policies that do not help solve the countries problems. People appointed not because they have the experience to do the job but as a payoff. Officials breaking the laws that work with Bush. Distortion and half truth that took us into a unneeded war. The seeds that were planted when Bush was young are showing up in todays failures. Bush will be evaluated by the future as a major failure from his days at college through January 20, 2009!
on Nov 13, 2005
Gene, I think you're on to something here and, if you play your cards right, you'll be able to force Bush off the ticket in 2008.

What a complete and pathetic waste of intellect.

Cheers,
Daiwa
on Nov 14, 2005
Gene, I think you're on to something here and, if you play your cards right, you'll be able to force Bush off the ticket in 2008.

What a complete and pathetic waste of intellect.


Sarcasm in place of thoughtful rebuttal, what a complete and pathetic waste of intellect.
on Nov 14, 2005
Yes , everytime the Bushies can not defend anything they attack the messinger or change the subject. However, to waste something you must first have the thing being wasted. From many of the responses I fail to see they have the intellect. I opposed Bush in 2000 (supported McCain) and in 2004. I took the time to see what experience Bush would bring to the most important office in our country. It did not take me long to understand he brought NOTHING of value.
on Nov 14, 2005
I find it ironic that you choose to call yourself Colonel which you so obviously are not or never were.....

I find it ironic because you are dogging George about his military career all the while pretending with your very name to be something more than you are....maybe you're jealous. How do I know you are not a Col? Easy. You have no loyalty to the commander and chief while "wearing" a military rank.

Not to say you can't have an opinion, but to be so vocal about it while attaching a miltiary rank to your name...sorry, no REAL Col would be so stupid.

So that leads me to discredit just about everything you have to say. Just looking at your ID makes me laugh. It should read "WISH I HAD THE CREDIBILITY OF A COL Gene."

But you don't. You haven't earned it.
on Nov 14, 2005
Tiva7

Better read my post concerning the FACTS about the Bush National Guard Service. Bush did not obey Air Force Regulations and his own records PROVE that. He was never punished for that failure to obey his orders.

As to my military service you are 100% wrong. I was commissioned a 2Lt July 26, 1963 and retired as a Colonel ( 06) on August 24 1993. I served as a combat arms officer including a year as an nuclear weapons officer and as an Army Finance officer. I served 5 1/2 years on active duty and 24 1/2 in the Army Reserve. I am a graduate of the Army War College and received numerous awards including the Meritorious Service Medal on two occations.
on Nov 14, 2005
As to my military service you are 100% wrong. I was commissioned a 2Lt July 26, 1963 and retired as a Colonel ( 06) on August 24 1993. I served as a combat arms officer including a year as an nuclear weapons officer and as an Army Finance officer. I served 5 1/2 years on active duty and 24 1/2 in the Army Reserve. I am a graduate of the Army War College and received numerous awards including the Meritorious Service Medal on two occations.


THEN ACT LIKE IT!

(But I still don't believe you.)
on Nov 14, 2005
I am acting properly by telling it like it is. In 1972 when Bush was not attending drills and did not take a required physical I was a Major and had command of an Army Reserve unit. If Lt. Bush had been in my unit and failed to attend drills and take his physical, I would have initiated punishment as outlined in the UCMJ. That is the proper action when an Officer does not obey regulations! News Flash- I do not care what you think. My DD 214 says you do not know what the Hell you are talking about!
on Nov 14, 2005
Bush was not attending drills and did not take a required physical I was a Major and had command of an Army Reserve unit. If Lt. Bush had been in my unit and failed to attend drills and take his physical, I would have initiated punishment as outlined in the UCMJ.


hmmmm...if you are as gung ho as you say, I wonder how you see Clinton's time in service....oh my bad...he ran away during Vietnam didn't he? He didn't even make a pretense, he was just FLAT OUT too good for the military.

Look Bush is Commander and Chief right now, and every time you bring up this crap it undermines his authority with some easily led folks in the military, thus making the military a tad bit weaker.

If you really were an 06, like you say, then you would know that shooting off this crap NON STOP is only hurting the military not helping it. That is why I doubt your "credentials."

Anyone who thinks his own political views are more important that the bigger picture has never been in a real leadership position. I don't care what you say.

Bush is President. Get over it and STFU. All your doing is causing trouble.
on Nov 14, 2005
COL, there is the difference between having a piece of paper that says that you finished 30 years pretending to be an officer (which matches the single-minded ravings that you practice here) and a piece of paper that says that you finished 30 years serving as an officer of the US Army w/ distinction.

The MSM is an possible indicator that you might've had a clue at one point, COL. Or it could indicate that you knew how to appropriately kiss your supervisor's ass.

If you earned those awards, COL, where is the clue that you must've had? Your single minded harping on issues that are not going to (effectively) change anything over the next 3 years is getting dangerously close to Conduct Unbecoming an Officer of the US Army.

Oh, COL, even if Bush had missed drills, flight times, and failed to complete necessary physicals ... after 30+ years, the statute of limitations has run out. So, the possibility of impeachement (even then, IMO, these wouldn't qualify for "High Crimes and Misdemeanors") is not there. You gotta come up with something that's a little younger than I am. Sorry.
on Nov 14, 2005
Yes , everytime the Bushies can not defend anything they attack the messinger or change the subject.


Col, this is one of the biggest non-stories of the election. Only people like, radical leftists, care anything about this.

This is all you have col. An accusation of something that happened 30 years ago. Keep going col, you are helping the democrats as best you can.

Pathetic.
on Nov 14, 2005
When influence peddling get a person who disobeyed his military orders a Honorable Discharge, I think that goes Too far. When that person becomes President of the United States, I know it goes Too far!


Okay, this is bad? But Kerry getting a pass on treason isn't?


There is a BIG difference between a Senator and President of the United States. Nothing about the fact that Bush disobeyed orders and did not deserve an Honorable discharge has changed. If Bush had received what his service deserved, he would NOT be President! Most likely not even a Senator!


And no there is NO difference between a senator doing it or the president. Influence pedaling is still pedaling, no matter who's doing it.
on Nov 14, 2005
Um, I'll take some of that influence peddling over here please! I have a yard full of leaves and they need to be raked!
on Nov 14, 2005
No that is not ALL I HAVE..

We have a failed policy in Iraq, we have a failed trade policy, we have a failed fiscal policy, we have most of the world aginst the U S, we have failed the needs of millions of Americans, we do not protect our borders and EVERY one of these failures are because of Bush and the policieas the he and the conservatives in Congress passed. Had Bush reveived the punishmernt for disobaying orders while he was in the military he would not have been president and America would be a lot better today.
on Nov 14, 2005
This sounds to me like:

1. Col seems to be upset with the fact that he worked hard to get what hoe got in the Military but someone else, like Bush, did work so hard and got more.

2. Col had been slammed, put down, corrected, given facts and close enough to humiliated by some of the members of this site, when it comes to Bush and the Reps, that he just had to find something to fight back with and it just so happens that he got lucky that this Bush "news" came out again.

3. He probably just a fustrated Military Col who was never appreiciated by anyone and probably feels insulted when people call soldiers baby-killers that he just has to do something about it and this is the best he can do.

As to my military service you are 100% wrong. I was commissioned a 2Lt July 26, 1963 and retired as a Colonel ( 06) on August 24 1993. I served as a combat arms officer including a year as an nuclear weapons officer and as an Army Finance officer. I served 5 1/2 years on active duty and 24 1/2 in the Army Reserve. I am a graduate of the Army War College and received numerous awards including the Meritorious Service Medal on two occations.


Interesting how all this time you sounded like someone around the age of 20, you know between almost sounding smart but still having the teen years drag you down. You are an older person that I figured but you sound childish sometimes.
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