Evaluation of the policies of George W. Bush and his Republican conservatives on America.
Published on November 13, 2005 By COL Gene In Politics


The National Guard service of George W. Bush is all over the TV news shows. Most of the coverage fails to address the service issues related to George Bush in the Texas Air National Guard.

This story has as the following major elements:

How did GWB get into the guard?

Did GWB fail to attend drills in 1972?

Did GWB fail to take a required flight physical which resulted in the loss of his flight status?

How did Bush obtain an early Honorable discharge?

How do the fake documents used by CBS impact the above questions?



The former speaker of the Texas House has stated publicly that he got George W. Bush into the guard. He also admitted he did the very same thing for the sons of other prominent Texans. The forged documents CBS used had no impact on how Bush got in the guard. He was given preferential treatment and was put ahead of about 100 other young men.


The pay records of GWB, releases by DoD show that for five months at the end of 1972, George W. Bush did not attend drills anywhere. In addition the National Guard personnel officer at the time Bush was in the guard stated that his failure to attend those drills meant that he did not have the required flight hours to maintain flight proficiency. The argument that he had enough drills in 1972 for a good retirement year DOES NOT answer the fact that those missed drills prevented him from completing the required flight time. The CBS documents have absolutely nothing to do with the Bush failure to attend those drills. That has been documented by the records released by DoD.

Documents released by the Department of Defense include order that grounded Lieutenant Bush for failure to take a required flight physical. In addition was the CBS letter from the Commander of Lt Bush directing him to take that physical that was fake. However, the Secretary to the commander of Lt Bush has stated she DID TYPE such a letter but states the actual letter CBS used was not the one she typed. Thus from the Grounding Order from DOD released records and the statements of the secretary it is clear Lt. Bush did not obey Air Force Regulations that require him to take a flight physical and he was grounded.




There is no disagreement that Bush obtained an early discharge from the Guard. There is no credible evidence I have seen that indicates how George W. Bush was able to obtain an early Honorable discharge from the National Guard. One question however that does deserve an answer is that how an officer who did not attend require drills and did not take a flight physical received an Honorable discharge? The military does not normally give an Honorable discharge to member that disobey regulations.

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on Nov 16, 2005
The Bush militarey records document he did not attend drills ANYWARE for 5 months. He did not take a REQUIRES physical that grounded him. He did not partticipate in a major droll that his unit was required to take. There is a required investigation whenever a pilot is grounded for not taking a physical. Diasobaying your commanding officer is a VERY serious offense and Bush should not have been granted a Honorable Discharge. Bush was also a drunk and was lucky he too did not kill someone while driving drunk. Her was convicted twice for DWI. He branded members of his fraternity at Yale.
on Nov 16, 2005
The Bush militarey records document he did not attend drills ANYWARE for 5 months.


Again it don't matter if he did not attend drill for six months. He did all his SUTA (drill days) and annual training ahead of time, with the authorization from his commander. It is all in his pay documents (you know the one you only want to cherry pick the later months, but ignore the earlier months of the year with excessive duty days). You really don’t think a person would spending 25 days working beyond the normal drill weekends at a Guard unit without a reason. He was paid under an IDT status (regular drill pay), not a RMA (extra duty pay) or ADSW (active) status. If he did not have authorization to drill ahead of time or in the doghouse with the commander (as you claim) he would never had been paid in any status, by his commander.

There is a required investigation whenever a pilot is grounded for not taking a physical.


There is no required investigation when a pilot is grounded, they are just barred from reenlistment. Stop pulling requirements out of thin air. I guess you have been telling yourself this so long, you actually believe it.

Diasobaying your commanding officer is a VERY serious offense and Bush should not have been granted a Honorable Discharge.


Please provide the order from the commander. Please no forged documents AGAIN.
on Nov 17, 2005
2 military persons with opposite ideas of how the military works,... but who's telling the truth? Find out on tomorrow's episode of "To Tell You The Truth". Same JU time, same JU channel.


I would be "more" inclined to believe Lee1776 as he has actual guard experience and administrative procedural experience while col gene does not. Also of note....when asked for "proof", the col can not provide any.
on Nov 17, 2005
I posted this on another thread but I will repost it here because I think it is valid.

There is a difference between inflammatory remarks and truth. A person can be outraged over either truth or a misperception. I think COL Gene's accusations are not grounded in fact. They are the hyperbolic assertions of a flame-tard who loves to stir things up. He obviously wants to get his agenda across to others, regardless of the tactics used or accuracy of his cited "facts".

He's lying because the memos in question are not valid. They were typed up in Microsoft Word, for crying out loud! Blatant misrepresentations.

Now if you say that the memos themselves were fake but the sentiments behind them were valid, then I would say to you: PROVE IT. 'Cause those got thrown out of the court of public opinion (and common sense) long long ago.

"Memo-gate" is an example of the depths to which one will stoop to discredit a popular and powerful person. It is a well-known tactic of the losing side (whichever one that is) to continue to throw poo against the wall. Eventually they hope some of it will stick.
on Nov 17, 2005
And the media are carpet bombing us with "poo" these days, singrdave, as I'm sure you've noticed. Gene is just drafting in their wake.

Cheers,
Daiwa
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