Bush Claims That Afghanistan is in Trouble

He Wants NATO to Send More Troops.

Published on February 16, 2007 By COL Gene In Politics

As the Congress debates the Bush war policy in Iraq Bush himself provides a strong argument to withdraw troops from the areas in Iraq that are engulfed in a Civil War and move them to Afghanistan. The quest for another 25-30,000 troops in Afghanistan from NATO is falling on deaf ears. The European members of NATO like Germany and France refuse to send more troops and will not allow any of their forces into the areas where the fighting is taking place with al Qaeda and the Taliban. The drug crops continue to flourish and are funding the activities of the Taliban and al Qaeda. Areas in southern Afghanistan are being recaptured by the Taliban and the current troop levels can not control the country.

The central government is loosing the support of the population because the promised improvements in everyday life have not taken place. The people and tribal leaders are turning back to the Taliban. Over 300 schools that were opened after the Taliban were removed from power in 2002 have been closed because of the expanding Taliban operations. Ben Laden and his deputy remain at large and operations along the border with Pakistan remain a problem. We have our military tied up in Iraq with no end in sight and if many more troops are not committed to Afghanistan, the situation will continue to get worse.

It is time Bush opens his eyes and turns the fight between the factions in Iraq to the Iraqi military and police. Then we will have the forces needed to deal with a growing problem in the country where 9/11 was planned. If you support our troops we must bring an end to continuing the failed policy of becoming involved in the Iraq Civil War. No one fought our civil war for us and we should not be fighting the civil war for the Iraqi’s.

Comments (Page 5)

COL Gene

on Feb 28, 2007

drmiler

All of what you say is your (Useless) opinion!

drmiler

on Feb 28, 2007

drmiler

All of what you say is your (Useless) opinion!

No, like you I can present facts in a fashion to back up my position (which I rarely do. so I know it can be done.). So since we both do it the same way, wouldn't you say that makes "your" opinions "just" as worthless as mine?

I just do not go on and on about the same boring things time after time, like you have a tendency to do

COL Gene

on Mar 03, 2007

drmiler

Your facts come from nickel/dime sources. The data I present come from the foremost experts or official agencies of the Government. It is not my opinions but the opinions and facts from the MOST creditable sources you question!!! All that does is show YOUR IGNORANCE!

Dan Greene

on Mar 05, 2007

I think the situation in Afghanistan is largely the result of slow progress in areas outside the control of the capital. That and NATO's dropping of bombs on civilians, or what turns up often enough, to make headlines, as such. We certainly aren't helping ourselves by doing that over and over.

It is logical to see the Taliban as enemies but really they are just rebels against the government we have sought to have free elections, elected, and installed into Afghanistan.

You guys could really cool off and relax a bit in lieu of this discussion.

I think the Taliban when in power really just wanted to run their own affairs and their only mistake when in power was not to hand over the criminal murders and war starters of AQ that planned and launched attacks for their country.

drmiler

on Mar 05, 2007

drmiler

Your facts come from nickel/dime sources

AGAIN this is "only" YOUR opinion! And not a very good one at that.

Of course to you they'd be nickel & dime sources. "Any" source that does not conform to your line of thinking would be.

Island Dog

on Mar 05, 2007

Your facts come from nickel/dime sources.

So what is the NYT, dailykos, and nostradomus?

COL Gene

on Mar 05, 2007

IslandDog

How about GAO. The Treasury, Army War College, Comptroller General, Brookings Institute, OMB, CBO, Census Bureau. I guess those are also Nickle/Dime! What about Gen. Powell, Sec Baker, Greenspan, O'Neil,, Gen Zinni, McCaffery, Shinsecki. More Nickle/Dime sources. You are so full of BS. Anyone that proves Bush does not know what he is doing is just WRONG!

Island Dog

on Mar 05, 2007

How about GAO. The Treasury, Army War College, Comptroller General, Brookings Institute, OMB, CBO, Census Bureau. I guess those are also Nickle/Dime! What about Gen. Powell, Sec Baker, Greenspan, O'Neil,, Gen Zinni, McCaffery, Shinsecki. More Nickle/Dime sources. You are so full of BS. Anyone that proves Bush does not know what he is doing is just WRONG!

Do you understand that you have been known to slant your "facts" to make your arguement seem valid? You have a completely one-sided view and you cannot even admit that. Bush is going to remain in office for the rest of his term, move on with your obsession.

COL Gene

on Mar 05, 2007

IslandDog

When I post the treasury dept balances for the debt or the annual budget deficit. When I post the trade deficit from the dept of commerce. When I post the studies of the Brookings Institute or the NIE how is that one sided? The problem is this information documents the impact of the Bush policies and they do not look good. That is not my fault or because the information is not accurate. You just do not like what it shows.

When the AP or NYT reports things like the Walter Reed issue or the fact we can account for 9 Billion Dollars in cash we sent to Iraq it is not because they did not accurately report the stories but that it makes Bush look bad.

Island Dog

on Mar 05, 2007

When I post the studies of the Brookings Institute or the NIE how is that one sided?

LOL. Col, you were showed by several people how you intentionally left out parts of the NIE, and how you ignored parts about Iraq weaons. Are you seriously going to sit there and say you are objective and that you look at both sides of an issue? Are you going to sit there and tell me that you are not obsessed with blaming Bush for everything no matter how ridiculous it is?

COL Gene

on Mar 06, 2007

IslandDog

You do not have to post the entire NIE to see what they concluded about the impact of our invading Iraq. I posted their conclusion which was that our invasion of Iraq has enabled the radical Moslems to recruit more converts that increases the danger and make us LESS SAFE.

I posted the balances of the National debt directly from the Treasury Web Site that clearly shows the debt is growing not getting smaller as Bush claims and the balances do not agree with what Bush reports and you say I am not objective! It has nothing to do with objective. I have posted the information that DOCUMENTS that Bush is not telling us the truth about the debt that people on this web site do not want to admit that Bush has lied about the deficit. I even post the actual Treasury Web Site so anyone can go look at the information! Most of what the Bush supporters post on this web site has nothing to do with facts but BLIND SUPPORT for a President that has FAILED our country!!!!!!!!

Paladin77

on Mar 06, 2007

BLIND SUPPORT for a President that has FAILED our country!!!!!!!!

I read your opinions of facts you have read, I read your opinions on almost everything, but I don't see the facts that brought you to the wrong conclusions. You point to websites but I can't open them, I don't see the stuff you do. show us all the facts as you see them.

Dan Greene

on Mar 07, 2007

"Bush is going to remain in office for the rest of his term, move on with your obsession."

With any luck, the congress will ensure that American troops don't remain in Iraq that much longer in the numbers they are presently.

So far the President had failed to pull us out of Iraq, even though we have won the war, had a freely elected government elected, searched and verified no usable WMD danger exists, helped to rebuild their country to post war levels and beyond, and now it's time to go, yet we remain with no exit strategy, no exit in sight, and nothing but talk about leaving, Americans are dying daily as are Iraqi's and the only thing that would change upon us leaving would be American's dying in Iraq.

As for Afghanistan, maybe we'll redeploy some troops there and spend more time beating down the Taliban.

Paladin77

on Mar 08, 2007

As for Afghanistan, maybe we'll redeploy some troops there and spend more time beating down the Taliban.

Well, the Brits are sending more troops there as we are.

Dan Greene

on Mar 09, 2007

I think there is more popular support for operations in Afghanistan, as the 9/11 attacks originated from there and there doesn't appear to be an occupation the scale of Iraq, or dare I say a miserably failing mess like Iraq's occupation. Just an opinion.

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