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The Pentagon has admitted that only ½ of the added Iraq Forces sent as part of this new surge are reporting for duty. This is down from 85% that reported for duty when the surge started about a month ago. This clearly shows that the Iraqi Government is NOT keeping the promises they made as part of the so called NEW Bush plan in Iraq. The time has come to turn the fighting in Iraq over to the Iraqi Military and police. If they choose not to control the sectarian violence it will be because they failed to take responsibility for their country. We have removed Saddam, Trained their Military and Trained their Police. Our job is DONE. Time to declare that we achieved what we set out to do and redeploy some of our troops to U. S. Bases and some to Afghanistan to finish the job in that country!

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on Mar 18, 2007
I have checked ABC,CNN, MSNBC and a pile of .gov sites. Along with Google, and can find nothing. Do you have a source for this besides your say-so? Or is it just most made up BS?
on Mar 18, 2007
drmiler

TRY CNN WOLF Blitzer Late Edition! It was on about 30 minutes ago.

How did you like the Comptroller General article I posted that you requested?
on Mar 18, 2007

General Petraeus The US military commander in Iraq says there are grounds for optimism over the latest security drive. Gen David Petraeus told the BBC that with two out of the five extra brigades now on the ground in Iraq, there had been fewer sectarian attacks.

He said he would have an idea of the chance of success once all extra troops were deployed in the coming months.


Gloom and doom! 
on Mar 18, 2007
IslandDog

That does not change what was reported they only 1/2 of the promised Iraqi Forces are showing up in Baghdad. The real test will be when we leave Iraq. Will the violence continue and even get worse. What we are doing does not change the struggle between the factions in Iraq and will not alter what is a Civil War for the control of Iraq!
on Mar 18, 2007
Well, if Wolf Blitzer says so it must be true despite the complete lack of reports of the same from any news outlet whatsoever! You really crack me up. I love good humor.
on Mar 18, 2007
drmiler

TRY CNN WOLF Blitzer Late Edition! It was on about 30 minutes ago.


Sorry but I have searched the "entire" CNN site and (yes I'm a registered member) found nothing to back up your claim. So until I can see it....I think it's BS! And like Mason said it "must" be so even without corroborating reports from ANY other source.

And as far as this goes...

How did you like the Comptroller General article I posted that you requested?


I'll tell you the "same" thing I said on your other thread:


You gave me something that is 2 YEARS out of date! This is 2007 NOT 2004! When you can show me where he has said it lately, then I'll believe. Until then this is BS!
on Mar 18, 2007
Well, if Wolf Blitzer says so it must be true despite the complete lack of reports of the same from any news outlet whatsoever


actually boys,,,this was reported in early feb. ...people are just starting to notice as the problem continues.

here's an exerpt ...Gen. George Casey, the Army chief of staff nominee and outgoing top commander in Iraq, said during his confirmation hearing yesterday that the Iraqi units sent as part of the surge are operating at about 55 to 65 percent strength.

full article...(and i assume the chicago tribune is "MSM" enough for everyone)...WWW Link

by teh way, that took 1 google with the phrase "50% of iraq troops not showing up" typed in. more interesting was the link right below the top tribune link which had this to say in 2004...

Arellano said he felt pushed out of the military too quickly after getting back from Iraq without medical attention he needed for his hand -- and as he would later learn, his mind.

"It was more of a rush. They put us in a warehouse for a while. They treated us like cattle," Arellano said about how the military treated him on his return to the United States.

"It is all about numbers. Instead of getting quality care, they were trying to get everybody demobilized during a certain time frame. If you had a problem, they said, 'Let the (Department of Veterans Affairs) take care of it.'"

The Pentagon has acknowledged some early problems and delays in treating soldiers returning from Iraq but says the situation has been fixed
.

yeah, sure it was...



on Mar 18, 2007
drmiler

You gave me something that is 2 YEARS out of date! This is 2007 NOT 2004! When you can show me where he has said it lately, then I'll believe. Until then this is BS. Well then how do you explain that he said the same thing last week on 60 Minutes and yesterday on CNN? You are the one FULL OF BS!
You just do not like what Mr. Walker had to say about your George!
on Mar 18, 2007
yesterday on CNN?


No, as usual you're the one who's full of it. I "told" you I searched the ENTIRE CNN site and found ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to back up what you're saying. So until then it's BS!
on Mar 18, 2007
Well, if Wolf Blitzer says so it must be true despite the complete lack of reports of the same from any news outlet whatsoever


actually boys,,,this was reported in early feb. ...people are just starting to notice as the problem continues.

here's an exerpt ...Gen. George Casey, the Army chief of staff nominee and outgoing top commander in Iraq, said during his confirmation hearing yesterday that the Iraqi units sent as part of the surge are operating at about 55 to 65 percent strength.

full article...(and i assume the chicago tribune is "MSM" enough for everyone)...WWW Link

by teh way, that took 1 google with the phrase "50% of iraq troops not showing up" typed in. more interesting was the link right below the top tribune link which had this to say in 2004...

Arellano said he felt pushed out of the military too quickly after getting back from Iraq without medical attention he needed for his hand -- and as he would later learn, his mind.

"It was more of a rush. They put us in a warehouse for a while. They treated us like cattle," Arellano said about how the military treated him on his return to the United States.

"It is all about numbers. Instead of getting quality care, they were trying to get everybody demobilized during a certain time frame. If you had a problem, they said, 'Let the (Department of Veterans Affairs) take care of it.'"

The Pentagon has acknowledged some early problems and delays in treating soldiers returning from Iraq but says the situation has been fixed.

yeah, sure it was...


Did you happen to notice this on the bottom of the page?


“They're not at the level we would like them to be total strength-wise, but they are showing up on the time they said they would,” Pace said.


And just an FYI...it looks like CNN is the "only" half way crecible source saying this. Kind of makes you wonder. And using "your" search parameters in Google, CNN is the only current one. One other thing...the source you cited while it may be part of the Tribune, it's actually a "blog"! Check your url.....
http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/news_theswamp/2007/02/iraqi_troops_no.html
on Mar 18, 2007
“They're not at the level we would like them to be total strength-wise, but they are showing up on the time they said they would,” Pace said.


Funny how folks seem to miss those little points eh?
on Mar 18, 2007
yeah, and in 2004 the pentagon claimed the problems at walter reed had "been fixed."
on Mar 18, 2007
yeah, and in 2004 the pentagon claimed the problems at walter reed had "been fixed."


I wouldn't start on that one if I were you. The col did and was "quickly" shown to be as wrong as could be.
on Mar 18, 2007
yeah, and in 2004 the pentagon claimed the problems at walter reed had "been fixed."


And I think you missed this part SC...

And just an FYI...it looks like CNN is the "only" half way crecible source saying this. Kind of makes you wonder. And using "your" search parameters in Google, CNN is the only current one. One other thing...the source you cited while it may be part of the Tribune, it's actually a "blog"! Check your url.....
http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/news_theswamp/2007/02/iraqi_troops_no.html



Doesn't that make it kind of unconfirmable?
on Mar 18, 2007
“They're not at the level we would like them to be total strength-wise,


yeah mason,,,funny...why are you arguing with me? the problem is iraqi soldiers not showing up for duty, which has been reported in various forms for years...not people realizing it and reporting it.

And just an FYI...it looks like CNN is the "only" half way crecible source saying this. Kind of makes you wonder. And using "your" search parameters in Google, CNN is the only current one. One other thing...the source you cited while it may be part of the Tribune, it's actually a "blog"! Check your url.....
http://newsblogs.chicagotribune.com/news_theswamp/2007/02/iraqi_troops_no.html


it's the CHICAGO TRIBUNE WASHINGTON BUREAU folks...not just some off the rack "blog"

the reporter, Aamer Madhani, is a correspondent for them.

the quote came from senate testimony from his confirmation hearing.

everything above is verifiable and confirmable. poo-pooing it because the web address has the word "blog" in it is shallow...i figured some would fall for that, i just didn't think ya'll would do it so hard and fast.

yeah, and in 2004 the pentagon claimed the problems at walter reed had "been fixed."


I wouldn't start on that one if I were you. The col did and was "quickly" shown to be as wrong as could be.


excuse me? everything at walter reed is Aok? LMFAO!!!!!







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