yes but non of these other three have had their husbands do anything as stupid as clinton did

Reply By: CharlesCS1 Posted: Thursday, June 07, 2007
The mess in Iraq is because of Bush and NO ONE ELSE!!!!!


Again you force my hand at this. Are you stupid or something? Do you not even follow your own line of thinking? From your own article:


Edwards, Clinton, McCain and Brownback all admitted they cast the most important vote that any member of Congress can make without reading the most complete assessment of the reasons to attack another country—The National Intelligence Estimate

It is you that is light between the ears. Had Bush not insisted on invading Iraq there would not have been a vote by Congress. Congress was not insisting on invading Iraq. They acted on the Bush insistence that Saddam was this threat that required the United States to preemptively attack Iraq because we were in mortal danger from Saddam. As I said, the Iraq War is because of BUSH. There would not have been a war resolution or an invasion had it not been for Bush!

Yes but none of these other three have had their husbands do anything as stupid as Clinton did


The issue is not Just Clinton. Reread the Blog. You just want to divert attention from the fact we have a Congress and President that took us into a war that was unnecessary!

so now it is BUSH'S FAULT THAT THESE FOUR IDIOTS DIDN'T READ THE INTELLEGENCE REPORT


what did he do hold a gun to their heads and threaton to kill them if they did



including the four that you mention

who were stupid becouse they didn't read what they were voting for

and as i said hillary is double stupid becouse her husband made the same mistake when he was in office and almost killed the 2002 winter olympics

So now it is BUSH'S FAULT THAT THESE FOUR IDIOTS DIDN'T READ THE INTELLEGENCE REPORT WHERE DID I SAY THAT? I said the senators were wrong but had BUSH not insisted on the WAR RESOLUTION, there would not have been a VOTE or a WAR!


And as I said Hillary is double stupid because her husband made the same mistake when he was in office and almost killed the 2002 winter Olympics

NO YOU IDIOT. She had ONE vote just like all others in Congress. Had BUSH not lied about the danger, there would not have been a VOTE!
ALL member of Congress that did not read the NIE before voting for the Bush War Resolution were WRONG! BUSH was WRONG for submitting the request to attack Iraq in the first place. Anyone that defends either Bush or the members of Congress that voted to send our military into combat without understanding the reason are JUST AS GUILTY for the 3,500 Dead and 25,000 injured American Military as Bush and the members of Congress that failed to uphold their most basic responsibility.

yea well i keep saying that saddam had to be removed period

as for these four idiots in congress. you and i both know that they read that report. anyone stupid enough to think that they didn't is even more dangerass than these four are.

and i guess i am guilty of the 3500 dead and the 25,000 injured. but unlike you i will stand up for what i say.


and this is what i think about war. all wars should be fought on computer, so that no one will be killed or injured becouse of these wars. that being said SADDAM HAD TO BE REMOVED FROM OFFICE AND SO DOES THAT IDIOT IN IRAN.

in the last 4 years there have been up to 80,000 civilians have been killed

saddam was allowing up to 105,000 people per year to starve to death so he could get richer

looks to me that deaths are down quite a bit

there have been 4000 deaths in 4 years in this war

the battle of d-day there were 2500 american deaths don't know how many were hurt

and that is but 1 day of fighting

like i keep saying a supply sargeant shouldn't be telling combat personal how to run a war

I'm sorry Col but you are just being ridiculous now. Had Bush not insisted? If one of your kids would have insisted that marijuana was not a bad thing would you have let them smoke it? Listen to your own logic, these people "Edwards, Clinton, McCain and Brownback" and all the others in Congress were perfectly capable of making decisions for themselves. There were no guns pointed at their heads (that we know of) obligating them to follow the Presidents words. It was irresponsible to not have read the document and then make a vote that would put us at war with another country. Every single person in Congress is just as responsible as Bush it. The war in Iraq was not a one man show, our Gov't is designed to not allow that. You're an idiot for continuing to ignore the fact that there were others involved, even worse when you point them out you forget them by your next reply. Man you are stupid, at least ignorance can be cured with education, stupidity is for ever.

yea well I keep saying that Saddam had to be removed period

That is true but not by the U.S. Military. That needed to be done by the Iraqi People!!!!!!


And I guess I am guilty of the 3500 dead and the 25,000 injured. But unlike you I will stand up for what I say.

I have stood up for what I believe and wrote two books to document those beliefs!


Reply By: danielost Posted: Thursday, June 07, 2007
In the last 4 years there have been up to 80,000 civilians have been killed

Saddam was allowing up to 105,000 people per year to starve to death so he could get richer

Look at what is taking place in Africa today. Look at what takes place in North Korea. There are dictators that are far worse then Saddam if your measure is how many people they kill and torture. We are NOT the world's policeman and Bush said we had to invade Iraq because of the DANGER he posed to our country which was a LIE!


I'm sorry Col but you are just being ridiculous now. Had Bush not insisted? If one of your kids would have insisted that marijuana was not a bad thing would you have let them smoke it? Listen to your own logic, these people "Edwards, Clinton, McCain and Brownback" and all the others in Congress were perfectly capable of making decisions for them. There were no guns pointed at their heads (that we know of) obligating them to follow the Presidents words. It was irresponsible to not have read the document and then make a vote that would put us at war with another country. Every single person in Congress is just as responsible as Bush it.

That makes Bush MORE culpable and he also was aware of ALL the Intel and the advice that to invade Iraq was a mistake. He ignored that information and advice, CHERRY picked that Intel that supported what he wanted to do and then members of Congress DID not do their job to read the NIE and allowed Bush to take our country into an UNJUST WAR that has made us LESS safe, Killed 3,500 troops, Injured 25,000 more and will cost the taxpayers about a Trillion Dollars that we need for FAR MORE IMPORTANT THINGS FOR OUR COUNTRY!

Anybody watch the Republican debate? They didn't read it either. Its been pretty well proven that all the reasons for going to war have been proven false except perhaps to get Saddam out of power. If kicking a dicatator out is your reason to go to war, then we have a lot more countries to invade.

yes we do iran, north korea, china, syria, to name a few

First of all learn to quote when you post. You've been on this site long enough to learn how to use the tools that are placed on every page. It's freakin annoying to have to sift thru you replys trying to separate your babel from someone elses reply. God, for a long time now I have been wondering how did you find this place and how do you even know how to get around it when you are a super novice when it comes to the internet. A guy who claims to be very educated, with 2 books under his wing and doesn't even know how to quote.

Second, if you feel less safe because of the war in Iraq that is you right. Do me a favor and stop saying "WAR that has made us LESS safe" as if you speak for everyone. You do not speak for me. I feel just fine here, I am not worried. We are as much in danger of getting caught in a terrorist attack as we are of going to war with China. Man, do you have this stuff written on a word doc and the you just past it over and over and over every time someone says something about Bush? My God you replies are almost word for word exactly the same in every article you post. We all get the general idea that you hate the man and that you are obssesed with him, give us a break already. Every time you open your mouth you make me sick. The fact that you poluted the US with your words in written makes me wonder who's really the cause of global warming, cause I want to buy both of your books just so I can burn them.

"Do me a favor and stop saying "WAR that has made us LESS safe" as if you speak for everyone. "

That is the Conclusion by our Intel Agencies which they clearly stated in the NIE and I believe they are FAR more qualified then you to make that assessment!

Listen up Mr Flip-flop, you can get you information from God himself but your words will never be credible because time and time again you have referred to sources that later you will criticize because they actually said something good about Bush. Do you feel unsafe? I don't, as I said I feel just fine. There is only so much we can do. It doesn't matter all the technology we get, all the manpower we get and all the friends we make around the world. Every time someone get's fingers pointed at them for suspicion of terrorist ties or activities, everyone will come out screaming racism, stereotyping, etc. Someone will do some little investigation and determine that the guy was too poor to be a terrorist, as if millionaire was a requirement to be a terrorist. This is a country where people have to commit the crime before they can be accused because someone will always cry about it.

This is really a condemnation of the Senate as a whole. Only seven senators read the NIE. Therefore there are 93 that didn't. I am sure both sides are very well represented. They are briefed before they vote. Should they have read the entire document before going to war? I don't know. It's a moot point. This happened in 2002. Do I think that the vote would have changed if all the senators read the NIE report, probably not. There was a strong feeling in the country at that time that we had to "do something". Of course, much of what we were told at that time, WMD etc. was false. The only person who benefits from this argument is Biden because he is the only nominee who actually did read the NIE.