Evaluation of the policies of George W. Bush and his Republican conservatives on America.


Of the 2008 presidential candidates who were in Congress in 2002, only Biden read the NIE before voting to allow Bush to take this country to War in Iraq! Edwards, Clinton, McCain and Brownback all admitted they cast the most important vote that any member of Congress can make without reading the most complete assessment of the reasons to attack another country—The National Intelligence Estimate. As former Governor Gilmore said, Members of Congress “ought to read at least that kind of material” It is still not clear if Congress was also provided the 2002 assessment from the Pentagon that concluded that Saddam was not capable of conducting ANY military operations outside Iraq. It is also not clear who was provided the intelligence from the CIA that concluded that Saddam would most likely only use any WMD he did have within Iraq and had no potential for using such weapons outside Iraq.

What is clear is we had a President and Vice President that cherry picked the intelligence which supported the argument to attack Iraq and buried anything that documented reasons not to invade Iraq. We had a President that ignored the advice of the most senior diplomats who warned to attack Iraq would destabilize the country, get the U.S. bogged down in a civil war and cause significant hatred among the Moslems thought the world. We had a Congress that did not read the NIE but relied on briefings that can distort or ignore information essential to make an informed decision.

We sent our brave young military into war and the responsible elected officials failed the most basic responsibility necessary to make the choice. There is NO more important decision of Congress and the president then to take our country to war. We took the MOST awesome step any country can take without understanding the REAL nature of the threat. We have a President and a Congress that has failed their MOST BASIC responsibility to our country and it’s military!

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on Jun 06, 2007
Talk about cherry picking. One day you claim that Republicans do nothing but lie the next day you eat up anything they say. You really have lost you mind haven't you Col? You jump at anything that screams "Bush is evil" even if it comes from the mouths of the same people you called liars days before.

In the words of Buzz Lightyear (ask a grandkid if you don't know who this is):

"You are one sad, strange, little man. You have my pitty."
on Jun 06, 2007
Edwards, Clinton, McCain and Brownback all admitted they cast the most important vote that any member of Congress can make without reading the most complete assessment of the reasons to attack another country—The National Intelligence Estimate.


you would think that clinton would have learned from her husbands mistake

on Jun 06, 2007
I'll take your silence as agreeing with me Col.
on Jun 06, 2007
= you would think that Clinton would have learned from her husband’s mistake.

I am not aware that Pres Clinton did not pay attention to the NIE. We however have PROOF, by their own admission, that these four DID NOT read the NIE before voting to allow Bush to take our country into war. HOW many other members of Congress did not read the Intelligence. How many were aware that the Pentagon said Saddam could not mount military Action against ANY country. How many in Congress knew that the CIA told Bush that Saddam would not use any WMD he had outside Iraq. How many in Congress knew that Baker, Powell, Armitage and others warned Bush of the dangers of invading Iraq? We know Bush and Cheney knew all THIS INFORMATION AND YET THEY TOOK US INTO A WAR THAT WAS WRONG FROM THE START. If you believe Congress met their Constitutional Responsibilities when they gave Bush the authority to invade Iraq without knowing what the Intelligence said about the danger Saddam presented to our country you have lost your mind! This is an unjust war and Congress failed to meet their responsibilities under our Constitution!!!!!!!! Now four of these Senators want to be President—HELL NO!!!!!
on Jun 06, 2007
Yep, and it's Bush's fault that they did not read it.
on Jun 06, 2007
I am not aware that Pres Clinton did not pay attention to the NIE.


he vetod something without reading it and almost killed the 2002 winter olympics in salt lake city
on Jun 06, 2007
to make it more clear

it was the only time that the president of the usa had the line item veto

his words he saw the words military, navy, army, whatever and vetoed it never bothered to read it

one of the items he vetoed was the money needed to move the reserve base at the university of utah campass. so that they could use that land to build the olympic village. They had to come up a new bill to get the funds. and it was to late to choose a different location for the village.

so again i will say that hillary should have learned that lession from her husband about reading something before putting your name on it.

BUT MY GUESS IS SHE DIDN'T READ IT SO THAT LATER SHE COULD SAY THAT SHE DIDN'T READ IT.

and i assumme that she did actually read it
on Jun 06, 2007
and please don't tell me that it isn't important becouse you were only attacking bush


if your going to attack one group you have to attack the other group for doing the samething or this case worse becouse that is all they do
on Jun 07, 2007
Another losing battle. Why do these people evn post articles if they bare come in to defend them?
on Jun 07, 2007
Reply By: MasonM Posted: Wednesday, June 06, 2007
Yep, and it's Bush's fault that they did not read it.


Where Did I say that? However, Bush was aware of this information and ignored ALL the information that showed invading Iraq was a mistake! He also claimed we were in danger from a nuclear attack from Iraq, The Mushroom clouds if we did not act, when he knew that was not true. He also ignored the most senior diplomats that warned against such an invasion and then failed to send the troops needed to secure Iraq after Saddam Fell! The mess in Iraq is because of Bush and NO ONE ELSE!!!!!
on Jun 07, 2007

Reply By: danielost Posted: Wednesday, June 06, 2007
I am not aware that Pres Clinton did not pay attention to the NIE.


he vetod something without reading it and almost killed the 2002 winter olympics in salt lake city

HOW IS THAT COMPERABLE TO GOING TO WAR?
on Jun 07, 2007

Reply By: danielost Posted: Wednesday, June 06, 2007
to make it more clear

it was the only time that the president of the usa had the line item veto

his words he saw the words military, navy, army, whatever and vetoed it never bothered to read it

one of the items he vetoed was the money needed to move the reserve base at the university of utah campass. so that they could use that land to build the olympic village. They had to come up a new bill to get the funds. and it was to late to choose a different location for the village.

so again i will say that hillary should have learned that lession from her husband about reading something before putting your name on it.

BUT MY GUESS IS SHE DIDN'T READ IT SO THAT LATER SHE COULD SAY THAT SHE DIDN'T READ IT.

and i assumme that she did actually read it


EVEN IF ALL THIS IS TRUE, IT IS NOTHING LIKE GOING TO WAR BY NOT READING THE INTELLIGENCE OR HAVING A PRESIDENT TWIST THE FACTS LIKE BUSH DID TO JUSTIFY THE INVASION OF IRAQ!
on Jun 07, 2007
HOW IS THAT COMPERABLE TO GOING TO WAR?


you stated that hillary voted for something without reading what she was voting for


if that is true i would never hire her as a lawer

becouse she is to stupid to be one

i wasn't comparing it to going to war

i was comparing how stupid it was

you need to understand something dictator col. gene when hilliary was first lady she made the white house staff clear the hallways and rooms when she came in.

and now she cares about the little people don't make me sick.
on Jun 07, 2007
You stated that Hillary voted for something without reading what she was voting for

YES and I also said the same thing about Edwards, McCain and Brownback. I also asked how many OTHER members of Congress did not read the Intelligence before giving Bush the authority to start a WAR! I also said the President IGNORED the Intelligence and ignored the advice of people like Baker, Powell, Armitage and MOST of the senior Generals. We have BOTH a Congress and President that took our country to WAR against a country that posed NO danger and there was a lot of Intel that said JUST THAT that was either not read by members of Congress before voting to go to war and a President who IGNORED anything that did not support what he wanted to do! NOW our country is in a NO WIN situation because of Bush and Congress! We have 3,500 dead military and over 25,000 injured for no valid reason.
on Jun 07, 2007
The mess in Iraq is because of Bush and NO ONE ELSE!!!!!


Again you force my hand at this. Are you stupid or something? Do you not even follow your own line of thinking? From your own article:

Edwards, Clinton, McCain and Brownback all admitted they cast the most important vote that any member of Congress can make without reading the most complete assessment of the reasons to attack another country—The National Intelligence Estimate


Here you mention 4 people who have great power in Congress that failed to read a very important document that would have helped in making a very important decision. I would called this irresponsible and would consider them as much responsible for this blunder in Iraq as Bush is. So how, in your right mind (if you even have one), can you say "NO ONE ELSE" when you yourself provided evidence that he was not alone on this ship of blunders? Obviousely that hatred towards Bush that you continue to deny to have makes you oblivious to your own writing. Do you have alzheimer or were you just born this way?
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