So you want socialized healthcare? The person who whines the most about budgets would have no problem with the federal government handling health care? .

I did not say that. I would like everyone to be covered and be able to afford coverage.

And I suppose democrats who want illegal’s as a new voting class will? The same way republicans want cheep labor for businesses.


Is this your typical response to anyone who challenges your BS? What I have said is NOT BS!!!!!

sorry stupid but the senate hasn't been controlled by anyone in what 10 years or more. it has been split with 51 49 vote more or less that whole time.

Reply By: danielost Posted: Monday, November 05, 2007
The 2007 Budget was approved by the GOP Controlled Congress.


sorry stupid but the senate hasn't been controlled by anyone in what 10 years or more. it has been split with 51 49 vote more or less that whole time.


I recall Cheney casting the deciding vote a number of times and every Bush Budget was passed by the GOP Controlled House and Senate. You are stupid and I feel sorry for someone that is far from reality as you.

 

And who is going to pay for it?  We don't need more social programs, we need to cut what we have already.  The federal government is not responsibile for an inviduals health care.

 

Of course it is.  You were getting hammered in the other thread, so you started another as usual.  Get a life and get over Bush. 

 

it takes two/thirds vote to pass almost everything in the senate.

Reply By: Island Dog Posted: Monday, November 05, 2007


I did not say that. I would like everyone to be covered and be able to afford coverage.

And who is going to pay for it? We don't need more social programs; we need to cut what we have already. The federal government is not responsible for an inviduals health care.

This is the issue-- families with incomes from $21,000 to $50 or 60,000 can not afford a $7-8,000 premium for health insurance. These people NEED medical care and do qualify for Medicaid. The Bush/GOP answer is the HELL with them. I do not believe most Americans agree with that policy. HOW do you suggest these people and their children receive the health care the need?

Reply By: danielost Posted: Monday, November 05, 2007
I recall Cheney casting the deciding vote a number of times and every Bush Budget was passed by the GOP Controlled House and Senate. You are stupid and I feel sorry for someone that is far from reality as you.



“It takes two/thirds vote to pass almost everything in the senate.”

YOU BETTER GO BACK TO GRADE SCHOOL! It only takes51 votes to pass a bill in the Senate. ONLY when the President veto's a Bill does it require 2/3 majority to override his veto. YOU ARE A STUPID PERSON!

A bill can be filibustered in the Senate and not allow it to come to a vote and that requires 60 votes to END a filibuster. I guess the Democrats during the first 6 years of the Bush Administration should have used this to prevent ANY bills from coming to a vote in the Senate. However when a bill does come to a vote it only takes 51 votes to pass it. That us why when the Senate was 50/50 the VP can cast the tie breaking vote and that is what Cheney has done!

You keep using a number that is not realistic for most people. 



Get a second job, supplement their income, cut expenses, etc.  How about not waiting for the government to solve their problem. 




If "most" Americans want to provide coverage for others, then they need to be included in any tax increases to pay for it.

Reply By: Island Dog Posted: Tuesday, November 06, 2007
This is the issue-- families with incomes from $21,000 to $50 or 60,000 can not afford a $7-8,000 premium for health insurance.


“You keep using a number that is not realistic for most people.”

What numbers are not realistic? Health insurance ( Blue Cross) for single women in PA is $450/mo. Family Coverage is over $800 per month. You may be able to obtain health insurance for less but the deductibles and co-pays are very high which people at that income levels can not afford. The 47 Million with no health insurance are mostly in the income group I have used.

“If "most" Americans want to provide coverage for others, then they need to be included in any tax increases to pay for it.”

That just exchanges one problem for another. If a family in the income group of $21,000 $50-60,000 can not afford health insurance they can not afford higher taxes either. The tax increases MUST come from those that can afford it and from the people that got the big windfall from the Bush tax Cuts!

No Col, only an idiot like you would believe that the an increase in work means more people are needed. I'm sorry buddy but you know nothing about business and hard work. People have it way to easy in todays world. People don't work as hard as they think they do. There was a time when cars were built by hand, when contracts were made on typewriters, where houses were built with your bare hands. Now we have robots making cars and moving the heavy stuff for the workers, computers can create contracts in a snap or you can have one copy and print millions of it, houses now come prebuilt ready to put together like a puzzle. Computers have made peoples jobs easier, from experience people are way to laid back in their jobs. they could do more but know they don't have to so they won't. I should know, most of the jobs I have had I have lost due to working really hard in an environment were most employees were use to doing enough and did not like having a guy who did more work than them.

You are simply the most confusing person in the world.  You scream about budget problems then advocate more social programs that will cost a substantial amount. 

LOL. 

The federal government has no responsibility to provide health care.  End of story. 




Gene, why don't you take a trip to your local mall and see how many people in that income range are buying non-essential items like iPods, cell phones, etc.  Then come back and tell us how one class of people need to support them.

how do you know who can and cannot afford more taxes. again you assume that the rich don't have major problems like someone on cancer or needing a heart transplant. or replacing a building that just blew up.

 

Hooray! Less harassment from the property confiscating wing of the government.

Wow. I wonder if they have started to use computers finally.

Which would have still happened regardless. Maybe if we cut medicaid we could get these people back?

Hooray. Not the government's job to do medical research.

It's amazing that after all this time that Gene doesn't know how to use the quote feature still.

OK, this sounds like a decent response Col so I will give you a decent response to this and I expect a decent response with no caps, no bold letter and no name calling.

We seem to have one thing in common, I too "would like everyone to be covered and be able to afford coverage". You can't really believe that many people in this country do not agree. Now here are the differences between us:

You want people who have worked hard and make large amounts of money to provide for those who either are too lazy to work, too lazy to work harder, too lazy to educate themselves or believe they are incapable of achieving more than what they currently do.

I want those who are too lazy to work, too lazy to work harder, too lazy to educate themselves or believe they are incapable of achieving more than what they currently do to work, work harder to make more money, educate themselves to make more money and/or at least try to achieve a higher standard of living as oppose to accepting what they believe is their limit.

One thing I have never heard you say is that you want the American people, especially those 44 million plus you are so fond of, to be better educated, to fight for a better life, to work harder for the necessities and the wants in their lives, to learn to be independent, to learn to sustain themselves, to learn to make better choices, to learn to survive, all without the help of the Gov't. Chaos could someday doom this country or the world and it would seem that all those poor African people we worry about so much would probably have a better chance of surviving in a chaos ridden planet than the average American would.