Evaluation of the policies of George W. Bush and his Republican conservatives on America.
Published on November 16, 2007 By COL Gene In Politics


The House approved $50 Billion for the Iraq War and Senate GOP members prevented that bill from coming to a vote. It is now clear what is stopping the Iraq War Funding are the GOP members of Congress and George W. Bush. I would suggest the Defense Secretary address his comments to them.

If our troops do not have what they need it is clearly because of the GOP and President Bush. I wonder how they will justify their actions?

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on Nov 16, 2007
Sir,

The handful of articles I've read about this today (mostly from the Early Bird News compilation that the DoD puts out) have said that the bill passed by the House would require a near complete withdrawal of combat troops by December 2008, that the funds are effectively tied to that deadline. The Senate shot down a similar bill, right, that would tie the funds to a withdrawal timetable?

Why won't the Democrats send up a bill without that deadline in it? On the other hand, why can't the Republicans push up a bill that has no deadline, and get it passed?

I think laying the blame entirely at the feet of the Republicans isn't giving the full picture of the political backdrop of the actions being taken.
on Nov 16, 2007
Why won't the Democrats send up a bill without that deadline in it? On the other hand, why can't the Republicans push up a bill that has no deadline, and get it passed?


they did it also was defeated today
on Nov 16, 2007
If our troops do not have what they need it is clearly because of the GOP and President Bush.


blaming bush because the idiot democrats keep putting things in the bill they know will get it vetoed.
on Nov 16, 2007
Gene, it's really pathetic how you obviously try to blame everything on Bush and the GOP.  The democrats are using the funding for the troops for their political agenda, and that is why these bills don't pass. 


on Nov 16, 2007
Why won't the Democrats send up a bill without that deadline in it?


The Congress can impose restrictions on a funding Bill. The fact is that the GOP members of the Senate would not allow the bill to come to a vote and are thus stopping the funding for the war. What the House Bill does is what the majority of Americans want!
on Nov 16, 2007
Reply By: danielostPosted: Friday, November 16, 2007Why won't the Democrats send up a bill without that deadline in it? On the other hand, why can't the Republicans push up a bill that has no deadline, and get it passed?they did it also was defeated today


No that is what the majority of Congress wants and is what the majority of Americans want-- An end to the Iraq War!
on Nov 16, 2007
Reply By: Island DogPosted: Friday, November 16, 2007Gene, it's really pathetic how you obviously try to blame everything on Bush and the GOP.


I have stated the facts. The House provided the funding for the War and the GOP members in the Senate PREVENTED it from being voted on. WHY?
on Nov 16, 2007
The Congress can impose restrictions on a funding Bill.


I understand that they can, I'm certainly not convinced that they should. Especially with it being fairly obvious that the Republican party would block such a bill. In that case, I feel it's both parties inability to compromise that is at fault here.

An exagerrated parallel: I tell you that I can cure cancer, but you have to allow me to personally slaughter 100s of people. You refuse to allow me a murder spree, and I blame you for the cure for cancer not being brought to the public. If the Republicans think that it is unacceptable (for moral or other reasons) to have a set deadline for withdrawal tied to an appropriations bill, and that is apparent to the Democrats, they really can't entirely blame the Republicans when the bill doesn't go up.

The fact is that the GOP members of the Senate would not allow the bill to come to a vote and are thus stopping the funding for the war.


The fact is that, because the Democrats are aware that the Republicans wouldn't compromise on the point of withdrawal timetables, the Democrats are also culpable for the bill being shouted down. I'm certain there is some minor political wrangling going on behind the scenes, but the whole thing smacks of theatrics; I find it hard to imagine that there are a lot of good-faith compromise attempts being made across party lines. The whole process is very partisan.
on Nov 16, 2007
The House provided the funding for the War and the GOP members in the Senate PREVENTED it from being voted on. WHY?


Because they refuse to accept a set deadline for troop withdrawal, I'd wager.

The House (Democrats) put forth a deadline for withdrawal and refused to send up an appropriations bill without it. WHY?

Politics.
on Nov 16, 2007
No that is what the majority of Congress wants and is what the majority of Americans want-- An end to the Iraq War!


the last pole i saw tonight said it was only 10%
on Nov 16, 2007

Of all the vile vomitus you have spewed out onto your blog, this is the most incidious.

The "bill" that was approved by the House contained language that would require Prs. Bush to get permission from Congress before ANY troop movement.  This is not only a blatant attack on the separation of powers, it is an attempt to shred the US Constitution. 

Newsflash, No member of Congress is given authority to decide how a war is to be fought.  I don't care which side of the aisle they sit on, or how much military experience they may have... The U.S. Constitution is VERY clear on this.

btw, The Republican sponsored bill was shot down by the Democrats too, so why are you only blaming the Republicans for this budget impasse?
on Nov 16, 2007
Oh, Good Grief!
on Nov 16, 2007
back to the old stand by


everyone all at one time now


what ever
on Nov 16, 2007
Reply By: pseudosoldierPosted: Friday, November 16, 2007The Congress can impose restrictions on a funding Bill.I understand that they can, I'm certainly not convinced that they should. Especially with it being fairly obvious that the Republican party would block such a bill. In that case, I feel it's both parties inability to compromise that is at fault here.


The issue is as stated- The GOP members of Congress are the ones preventing the funding. If the majority of Congress believes that the funding should contain the restrictions on the war then that is what should happen. What is taking place is the GOP and Bush are attempting to thwart the will of the majority in Congress which happens to agree with the majority of the country. If the funding is not available to our troops it will be because the GOP and Bush.
on Nov 16, 2007
Newsflash, No member of Congress is given authority to decide how a war is to be fought. I don't care which side of the aisle they sit on, or how much military experience they may have... The U.S. Constitution is VERY clear on this.


Congress has the power to END the war and to end the funding!
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