Evaluation of the policies of George W. Bush and his Republican conservatives on America.
Published on December 13, 2007 By COL Gene In Politics


The GOP presidential debate yesterday contained a segment about the fiscal problems facing our country. The moderator sighted the Comptroller General warnings about the debt and continued budget imbalance as well as the coming problems with funding Medicare and Social Security. The GOP candidates agreed with the assessment of the Comptroller General that we have created a very serious problem. However when the questions of how to deal with this were pursued it became clear none of the GOP candidates have a CLUE!

On one hand they admit it is a major problem and then blame it on entitlements. That showed either a complete misunderstanding of the problem or a refusal to face the real cause which has NOT been entitlements i.e. Social Security and Medicare thru 2007. Both these entitlements have produced an annual SURPLUS which has been used to finance the deficit in the discretionary portion of the budget. None of the $9 Trillion dollars of debt comes from either Social Security or Medicare.The problem with entitlements is in the FUTURE. The coming problem with entitlement will be ON TOP of the problems created by the discretionary spending that has exceeded tax revenue since 1981. The candidates also claim we can solve the problem without any real sacrifice and propose to cut federal revenue more with additional tax cuts. That is not true and is totally opposite to what The Comptroller General has documented. The solution to BOTH the existing $9 Trillion dollar deficit and the coming problem of entitlements as the Baby Boomers retire will require MAJOR sacrifices by Americans.

ALL the GOP Presidential candidates are in denial as to the extent and solutions that will be needed to address the growing financial storm on the horizon. To all this must be added the huge trade deficit and falling value of the dollar as well as the energy situation. We also heard the same refrain that the “Market” will solve the energy problems and that we do not need government policies to help reduce our dependence on foreign oil. There was the admission of the problems created by OUR dependence on foreign oil but the same old refrain of the “Free Market” will provide the solution. If that were true, why is the energy problem for the United States getting worse every year? The truth is to solve the energy problem we need to have both government incentive and penalties that move forward domestically controlled alternative energy supplies and far more efficient use of oil including higher mileage for cars, trucks and SUV’s. Most of the GOP candidates admit their policies over the past 7 years have failed but at the same time they proposed, for the most part, to continue those same policies with only minor changes. If you are looking to solve the fiscal, trade and energy problems NONE of the GOP candidates are for you!

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on Dec 13, 2007
ONLY IDIOTS WILL VOTE FOR ANY OF THEM. HOW ABOUT YOU?


i believe he was talking gop and democrats. and i know i have been on different threads for the year that i have been posting on here.
on Dec 13, 2007
Reply By: danielostPosted: Thursday, December 13, 2007
It will require BOTH spending cuts and added tax
this is true but it is also true that you increase the amount of taxes by giving tax cuts. as long as you don't go to far.


The data shows that the tax cuts have not increased tax revenue from economic growth enough to replace the lost revenue from the tax cuts. The Comptroller General and the Brooking Institute also showed that by making the Bush tax cuts permanent will increase the national debt even MORE!
on Dec 13, 2007
Reply By: danielostPosted: Thursday, December 13, 2007
Sacrifice should mean taxing the rich, and giving less to the poor. i.e. the poor will have to go without many modern conveniences such as cable, private internet access,
these provide taxes too.



Taking from the poor and many middle income families will cause them harm. Taking a little from the Rich will not cause then ANY harm!
on Dec 13, 2007
Personally ColGene, I couldn't care less what you think about me. Call me an idiot for voting GOP, or for Hillary, or for YOU... but since you're right so rarely, I don't have to even give it a thought.
on Dec 13, 2007
Reply By: ParaTed2kPosted: Thursday, December 13, 2007Just think ColGene, every dollar you accept increases the federal deficit. And you say you CARE!!!


What I accept I earned over the 40 years when I worked and paid taxes so the prior generations could live.
on Dec 13, 2007
Reply By: ParaTed2kPosted: Thursday, December 13, 2007Personally ColGene, I couldn't care less what you think about me. Call me an idiot for voting GOP, or for Hillary, or for YOU... but since you're right so rarely, I don't have to even give it a thought.


OK YOU ARE AN IDIOT!
on Dec 13, 2007
Reply By: ParaTed2kPosted: Thursday, December 13, 2007Just think ColGene, every dollar you accept increases the federal deficit. And you say you CARE!!!


What I accept I earned over the 40 years when I worked and paid taxes so the prior generations could live.


this does not change what parated said.


and you want to take away all of frogboys money. i would venture to say that he worked and earned all of his money too.
on Dec 13, 2007
Taking from the poor and many middle income families will cause them harm. Taking a little from the Rich will not cause then ANY harm!


and since over 22,000 of the households in the US that are considered "poor" have a heated swimming pool and/or a jaccuzzi, apparently taking from a lot of the poor folks won't do them any harm either.


I still notice that you count yourself out of any increase in taxes, even though you are richer than most Americans. Idiot.



What I accept I earned over the 40 years when I worked and paid taxes so the prior generations could live.


And so did many of those you so bigotedly call, "the rich", but that doesn't stop you from wanting the government to take what they earned.

Face it, you are just a theif who is too cowardly to steal the money yourself.
on Dec 13, 2007
ONLY IDIOTS WILL VOTE FOR ANY OF THEM. HOW ABOUT YOU?


Once again Col demonstrates how little he really cares about the average American or the Constitution since he believe that anyone who votes for any of the GOP candidates is an idiot right off the back. This is proof that Col does not come to JU to debate issues; he is here to demand we follow his religion of hatred and that anyone who denies his words of wisdom is doomed to eternal idiocy. This is not a forum to hold debates on peoples opinions of current events, this is a forum where you are required to join a cult, follow the words of the leader (in this case Col gene) to the letter or otherwise be branded as ignorant, stupid, an idiot and overall the cause of, what his cult believes will be, the end of the USA.
on Dec 13, 2007
He doesn't come here to debate, he comes here to Mass Debate.




oooh, did I type that out loud? ;~D
on Dec 13, 2007
Reply By: danielostPosted: Thursday, December 13, 2007
Reply By: ParaTed2kPosted: Thursday, December 13, 2007Just think ColGene, every dollar you accept increases the federal deficit. And you say you CARE!!! What I accept I earned over the 40 years when I worked and paid taxes so the prior generations could live.
this does not change what parated said.and you want to take away all of frogboys money. i would venture to say that he worked and earned all of his money too.


I will be happy to receive a little of the money that Bush gave to the wealthy that they should not have received. The party will be over in 2011 when the Bush tax cuts END!
on Dec 13, 2007
Might I remind you, little Pissant Colonel, that I was making less than $30,000 a year when Bush "gave to the wealthy", and that check you say didn't help my family ended up saving us a few thousand dollars in interest.

Face it, you know nothing, you never have known anything and all your pathetic reruns of the same articles over and over won't change that.

Piss on you and your bigotry!
on Dec 13, 2007
Reply By: ParaTed2kPosted: Thursday, December 13, 2007
Taking from the poor and many middle income families will cause them harm. Taking a little from the Rich will not cause then ANY harm!
and since over 22,000 of the households in the US that are considered "poor" have a heated swimming pool and/or a jaccuzzi, apparently taking from a lot of the poor folks won't do them any harm either.I still notice that you count yourself out of any increase in taxes, even though you are richer than most Americans. Idiot.
What I accept I earned over the 40 years when I worked and paid taxes so the prior generations could live.
And so did many of those you so bigotedly call, "the rich", but that doesn't stop you from wanting the government to take what they earned.Face it, you are just a theif who is too cowardly to steal the money yourself.


I earned everything I am getting.

It has EVERYTHING to do with the welfare of the Average American. The Bush/GOP policies could care less about the welfare of the poor and the middle income Americans. ONLY the Rich count for the GOP and the CROP of GOP presidential candidates. Thus anyone that would support them can not be interested in the average American. The real FOOLS are those Average Americans who support the GOP because they are shooting themselves on BOTH FEET!
on Dec 13, 2007
Piss on you and your bigotry!


*zip* *tinkle*



~Zoo
on Dec 13, 2007
Taking from the poor and many middle income families will cause them harm. Taking a little from the Rich will not cause then ANY harm!


As usual this all goes back to genes obsessive hatred of rich people.  Notice how he loves to use the word "take".

It's been shown to you over and over that increasing taxes on business and successful Americans is not a good idea.


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