Impeach Bush for the lack of security in Iraq

380 Tons of missing explosives is the last straw!

Published on October 27, 2004 By COL Gene In Politics

The failure to provide security in Iraq has added to American Casualties and injuries. Bush has not provided the troop levels required to secure the borders and prevent outside terrorists from comming into Iraq. He has not secured the explosives from getting into terrorists hands which are being used to kill and injure American military members or to control the populated areas where terrorists are operating from and planning attacks on our soldiers. The latest revelation that 380 Tons of explosives are missing from a known site is but one of a long list of our failures to secure Iraq and limit American casualties.

Bush made the decision to understaff the military which has resulted in our inability to establish order. Reguardless of whether you agree with the decision to attack Iraq, no one can believe Bush has acted responsibly in the way the war was conducted after Saddam was removed from power. Bush and Cheney are running around telling us how many tons of explosiives we have destroyed not how many tons of explosives we have allowed to fall into the hands of the terrorists that have been used to kill and injure our brave military .

Bush is the where this buck stops and he should be removed as Commander-in-Chief for failing to protect the military he has placed in harms way!

Comments (Page 1)

Daiwa

on Oct 27, 2004

COL -

There aren't enough soldiers in the US, Russian, German and French armies combined to seal or secure the borders of California, where the insurgency in San Jose is a little easier to manage, let alone Iraq. Well, perhaps there could be if we took all of them off duty elsewhere, not too realistic a proposition.

Despite all the hyperventilating over the NYT article, what explosives or weapons went missing when is not yet known. Far more likely that they were either destroyed by bombing during the war, removed and hidden elsewhere by Saddam's thugs just before & during the war, spirited out to other countries prior to the war, or all of the above to some extent or other. The notion that we had the explosives under our control, had them lifted from under our noses, and that they are now being used against our troops has not only not been proven, it has no factual basis whatsoever. It's all just wild speculation, anything to get people foaming at the mouth, never mind the truth.

Cheers,
Daiwa

Draginol

on Oct 27, 2004

Man, you left wingers just swallow this propaganda unflinchingly don't you? Sheesh.

Dr Guy

on Oct 27, 2004

When you jump to conclusions, you often land in a briar patch:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,136745,00.html

You lose Col Klink! That pesky Hogan got you again! !

drmiler

on Oct 27, 2004

Reply #3 By: Dr. Guy - 10/27/2004 4:29:14 PM
When you jump to conclusions, you often land in a briar patch:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,136745,00.html
You lose Col Klink! That pesky Hogan got you again! !

Your gonna get called on this dude. As far as some on this site are concerned Fox is biased to the right.

COL Gene

on Oct 27, 2004

You tell the families that their sons and daughters were not killed by the explosives we did not secure in Iraq. You tell them we prevented the terrorists commig into Iraq from outside that killed their soldiers. You tell them we are in control of the hot spots in Iraq where their family members are being killed. It is not I that loose, it is them who have lost - BIG TIME! That is neither Right or Left it is a fact!

Daiwa

on Oct 27, 2004

Nice try at diversionary tactics, COL Gene, but ineffective. You & blogic, in your eagerness to Gore Bush, jumped into the water without bothering to check its depth.

We now know that the NYT article is another failed hatchet job. Here are the updated facts.

The IAEA "warned" the US, not before the invasion, but in May 2003 just days before the US inspectors (inspecting for WMD, BTW) arrived, only to find that the explosives in question were already gone.

The NBC reporter with the first soldiers to arrive at al Qaqaa confirms that no IAEA tags were seen on any of the bunkers, locked or otherwise, that he personally observed.

The 101st arrived at al Qaqaa 1 or 2 days after the first soldiers overnighted there on their way in to Baghdad. One of those soldiers from the 101st has confirmed that many of the bunkers were wide open & appeared to have been looted.

It is well known that Saddam had actually dispersed weapons from such depots in advance of prior known or suspected threats in an effort to retain as much of the material as possible. He had full month to do just that before US soldiers arrived at al Qaqaa.

Kerry's own staff have admitted publicly that we (and they) don't know what happened to the explosives.

The allegation that 380 tons of explosives have disappeared on Bush's watch and are now being used against our troops is not only not proven, there isn't even any good circumstantial evidence to support it.

Yet Kerry continues today to spew the lie that Bush is responsible for 380 tons of explosives ending up in the hands of terrorists and insurgents for use against own own soldiers. This is the most despicable thing he's done so far, in a long litany of despicable things, knowingly perpetuating a false and salacious accusation.

May Kerry reap what he is sowing.

Cheers,
Daiwa

COL Gene

on Oct 27, 2004

You missed the point of my Blog. I said the missing 380 Tons was the LAST revelation. The fact remains Bush did not send the number of troops needed to control Iraq after the fall of Saddam. We know the terrorists have been using the available explosives in Iraq to kill our troops. We know that outside terrorists have come into the country. We know that we have not been able to control the areas where the Saddam factions were strong and they have been planning and attacking our troops. We know that Paul Bremmer pleaded with Bush for more troops to mantain order in Iraq.. Thus, it is not the point of the 380 Tons of explosives but the overall lack of control which was the result of not having the level of forces needed. That is a BUSH choice that has cost Ameican lives! He failed to listen to the military leaders who knew what it would take to control Iraq.

itgirl

on Oct 28, 2004

Check out this link from today's Guardian:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/Iraq/Story/0,2763,1337887,00.html

If this is proved, then Kerry didn't jump on a bandwagon, he's entirely right in his pursuit of Bush on this matter.

COL Gene

on Oct 28, 2004

itgirl

I was as unable to obtain the link in the guardian from the URL you gave.

dewey

on Oct 28, 2004

Great updates going on at dkos...go there.

T_Bone4Justice

on Oct 28, 2004

drmiler, "Your gonna get called on this dude. As far as some on this site are concerned Fox is biased to the right."

You are right. I am going to call him on it. And it isn't just me or a few people on the left that thinks FOX is not only biased, it is a stretch of the imagination to call it news when 80% of its content is right-wing commentary instead of ojective reporting. As I have said over and over again...there are many people on the right and moderates who realize that FOX is nothing but a propaganda machine for the GOP. Rupert Murdoch (spelling?) who owns FOX has even admitted as much as well as his disdain for the media in general. FOX was designed to get out the Republican propaganda. Now that is ok, if you are at least HONEST about it. But to tout your network as "fair and balanced" while you are intentionally promulgating propoganda for the right is outrageous. Did you know that the "reporters" for FOX are TOLD WHAT to report, they are told HOW to report it and what SPIN to give it by the FOX executives who set up the network to present right-wing opinions as news. There is plenty of documentation on this fact and it was proven by numerous former news people/employees from within FOX itself and not some crazy lefty. There were actual and numerous memos from the higher ups at FOX to their reporters/employees telling them what to report and what spin to put on it. In most legitimate news agencies, there is some editorial and content control but that is usually in the form of production/time/ratings concerns. Reporters from mainstream media are not consistently and methodically TOLD what to report, HOW to report a story and what spin to put on it. If you really want to see an example of what FOX news is all about, I can provide you with a link (if you have real player on your computer) where you can watch a 30 minute documentary on the subject.

T_Bone4Justice

on Oct 28, 2004

Daiwa, "There aren't enough soldiers in the US, Russian, German and French armies combined to seal or secure the borders"

Right. So you would think that this would have gone into the administration's cost/benefit analysis of whether it was worth invading Iraq over THREATENING to invade to get the inspectors back in who knew where all of this stuff was and had it under seal. No. It was better to rush into war KNOWING that weapons caches of high explosives and munitions were all over the country and KNOWING you had no way to seal off the border either before, during, or after an invasion? It made us somehow safer to have this stuff flowing over the borders like water to terrorist organizations in Iran, Syria, and god knows where else? I fail to understand why people can't see the error in that crucial decision. That critical analysis didn't require hindsight. It required good judgment.

Myrrander

on Oct 28, 2004

Impeach Bush? You have a chance to vote him out next week.

MythicalMino

on Oct 28, 2004

i have read that Iraq may have moved them to Syria....with the help of.....the Russians?

COL Gene

on Oct 28, 2004

Myrrander

I have done just that. Bush still should be removed from office for allowing our enimies to use the explosives in Iraq to Kill Our Troops! It is not the failure of our brave troops it is a Bush failure to provide the force levels needed to secure Iraq properly!

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