Evaluation of the policies of George W. Bush and his Republican conservatives on America.
Published on December 21, 2007 By COL Gene In Politics


The help President Bush signed into law this week will help some 200,000 people with mortgages that are in trouble. Some argue that Tax Payers should not bail out the bad choices of individual home owners or the mortgage industry. If the consequences of these failures only impacted those who made the bad choices that rational would make sense.

The problem is that the magnitude of the mortgage failures could trigger a major recession and credit crises. That is why the fed and Bush have decided to act. Former Fed Chairman Greenspan believes the mortgage problem is a VERY serious issue and has supported actual direct funding from the federal Government to individuals to help them refinance their mortgages to avoid default.


To date about 3 million mortgages have defaulted and there are as many as another 2 million that are believed to be in danger of defaulting. The plan Bush provided only deals with 200,000 of the 5,000,000 mortgages that are part of this problem. That means Bush has provided help for about FOUR PER CENT of the problem! Does he believe that the possible recession and credit problem can be avoided by dealing with only 4% of the problem?

The action Bush and his administration took to solve major issues facing our country do not come close to fixing the problem at hand. It is just like the Bush plan to give tax credits so people without health insurance can afford to purchase private insurance. The estimate is that the Bush health plan would solve the issue for 3 of the 47 million who need health insurance. That is just over 6% of the health insurance problem. Why does take action Bush takes does not deal with the issue at hand? So Bush and his SPIN DOCTORS can make it look like he CARES!

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on Dec 21, 2007
The federal government shouldn't be stepping in at all.
Former Fed Chairman Greenspan believes the mortgage problem is a VERY serious issue and has supported actual direct funding from the federal Government to individuals to help them refinance their mortgages to avoid default.
More welfare. What's next? Helping people pay.... Car payments Cable TV New gaming console Internet connection Where does it end? As you stated in your other thread, go get a second job and make your payments!
on Dec 21, 2007
Reply By: Island DogPosted: Friday, December 21, 2007The federal government shouldn't be stepping in at all. Former Fed Chairman Greenspan believes the mortgage problem is a VERY serious issue and has supported actual direct funding from the federal Government to individuals to help them refinance their mortgages to avoid default.More welfare. What's next? Helping people pay.... Car payments Cable TV New gaming console Internet connection Where does it end? As you stated in your other thread, go get a second job and make your payments!


No this is NOT welfare. The issue that Greenspan brings up is that if we do not act, this could trigger a recession that will impact many people who DID MAKE the bad decisions about their mortgage and cost many times more then to act and help refinance these mortgages.

The proposal is NOT to pay the mortgages for these people but to pay the cost to refinance the mortgages so the individuals can afford to pay them rather then go into default. If for example we spent $5,000 per mortgage to help refinance 4 million mortgages the cost would be 20 Billion. If we have a Major recession the cost overall could be hundreds of billions and impact many who had no part in creating this problem.

People who use the "Its WELFARE" argument simply ignore the very real potential that ignoring this issue may cost us all a LOT more then to deal with the issue.
on Dec 21, 2007
The issue that Greenspan brings up is that if we do not act, this could trigger a recession that will impact many people who DID MAKE the bad decisions about their mortgage and cost many times more then to act and help refinance these mortgages.


The only people using the recession word are liberals and the media. 

Of course this is welfare....the government paying your mortgage payment because you made an irresponsible choice.  And this is something people are proposing.


If for example we spent $5,000 per mortgage to help refinance 4 million mortgages the cost would be 20 Billion.


LOL.  Let me guess gene, the rich should pay for this, right?


on Dec 21, 2007
Yeah, this is welfare. I'm all for helping people, but this is far too much.

Talk about throwing a monkey wrench into the works. This is going to do far more harm than any good, Gene. How you can't see that (nor President Bush, for that matter) simply proves to me you're both moronic when it comes to the economy.
on Dec 21, 2007
Reply By: Island DogPosted: Friday, December 21, 2007
The issue that Greenspan brings up is that if we do not act, this could trigger a recession that will impact many people who DID MAKE the bad decisions about their mortgage and cost many times more then to act and help refinance these mortgages.
The only people using the recession word are liberals and the media.


WRONG - Greenspan said there was a 50% chance of a RECESSION!


. Let me guess gene, the rich should pay for this, right?



Those who can afford to pay should pay!
on Dec 21, 2007
Reply By: SanChoninoPosted: Friday, December 21, 2007Yeah, this is welfare. I'm all for helping people, but this is far too much.Talk about throwing a monkey wrench into the works. This is going to do far more harm than any good, Gene. How you can't see that (nor President Bush, for that matter) simply proves to me you're both moronic when it comes to the economy.


Tell that to Greenspan! I would take his advice over ANYONE on this Blog Site!!!!!!!!!
on Dec 21, 2007
Those who can afford to pay should pay!


then you should be the first to start paying.
on Dec 21, 2007
Another cut&paste bit of blather from the DNC's favorite JU blogger.
on Dec 21, 2007
Tell that to Greenspan! I would take his advice over ANYONE on this Blog Site!!!!!!!!!


Normally I would agree with Greenspan, but even legends like him make mistakes sometimes.

And this would be one.



PS Could you cut down on the bold? Makes it seem like you're yelling at everyone, and makes you kinda seem like a douche.
on Dec 21, 2007
Reply By: danielostPosted: Friday, December 21, 2007
Those who can afford to pay should pay!
then you should be the first to start paying.


Just as soon as I am in the top 10% I will be happy to pay more!


Reply By: DaiwaPosted: Friday, December 21, 2007Another cut&paste bit of blather from the DNC's favorite JU blogger.



WHEN did Greenspan become a member of the DNC?

Reply By: SanChoninoPosted: Friday, December 21, 2007
Tell that to Greenspan! I would take his advice over ANYONE on this Blog Site!!!!!!!!!
Normally I would agree with Greenspan, but even legends like him make mistakes sometimes.And this would be one.




I will continue to accept his advice over anyone on this Blog Site until that can show they have a better understanding of the financial operations of this country!
on Dec 21, 2007
Those who can afford to pay should pay!
then you should be the first to start paying.


Just as soon as I am in the top 10% I will be happy to pay more!




your first statement did not say anything about being in the top 10%. so since you can afford to pay then you should pay.

as the saying goes what is good for the goose is good for the gander.


you can not expect anyone to listen to you unless you are willing to put up.

put up or shut up
on Dec 21, 2007
Reply By: DaiwaPosted: Friday, December 21, 2007Another cut&paste bit of blather from the DNC's favorite JU blogger.


you stupid
on Dec 21, 2007
Those who can afford to pay should pay!


And you claim not be a socialist.  One class of people should directly pay for the mistakes of another.  Unbeleivable.


on Dec 21, 2007
Reply By: danielostPosted: Friday, December 21, 2007
Those who can afford to pay should pay! then you should be the first to start paying.Just as soon as I am in the top 10% I will be happy to pay more!
your first statement did not say anything about being in the top 10%. so since you can afford to pay then you should pay.


Better go back and look what I have written. I have always said we should increase the tax burden on the top 10%. They are the people that got most of the Bush Tax Cuts!

Reply By: Island DogPosted: Friday, December 21, 2007
Those who can afford to pay should pay!
And you claim not be a socialist. One class of people should directly pay for the mistakes of another. Unbeleivable.


If the economy were to go into a recession because of the Mortgage problem the wealthy will pay as well. They can look at it as an investment to keep the economy positive!

on Dec 21, 2007
Are individuals ever responsible for their own actions in your world, Gene?
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