Evaluation of the policies of George W. Bush and his Republican conservatives on America.
Published on July 11, 2005 By COL Gene In Politics



Last Wednesday, circuit Judge Thomas Barkdull III, handed some of Rush Limbaugh’s medical records to Palm Beach prosecutors, ending his 19 month battle to keep his medical records from being used to determine if he illegally obtained prescription drugs. Limbaugh, obtained four prescriptions from four different doctors during the same period of time for prescription narcotics. He is an admitted drug addict and the delivery of some of his medical records to the Palm Beach prosecutor by the court should provide the information needed to charge him with, “doctor shopping”.

Rush had a banner week after he repeated the idiotic statements of the Mayor of London who said the attack on London 7/7 /2005 “didn’t succeed in doing anything”. The reason Rush Limbaugh repeated that ridiculous statement is to make light about the concern that the war on terrorism is not going well. The Islamic terrorist group claiming responsibility made it clear it was in retaliation for the British actions in Iraq. This whole concept that the war in Iraq is helping fight in the war on terrorism has been shown to be a farce with the London attack of 7/7. What is true is that the Iraq war has made the war on terrorism more intense and has provided yet another location for Islamic militants, who hate us, a place to train for future attacks. For Rush Limbaugh to repeat that an attack which brought the transportation system in London to a stop and either killed or injured a thousand people accomplished nothing shows the extent to which this ideologue will go to make it look as if the policies of the right are succeeding.

Last week was also a big week for another right wing conservative giant, Karl Rove who was finally identified as the person in the White House that revealed that Valerie Plame was a CIA agent. This was after her husband, Ambassador Wilson debunked the Bush claim that Saddam Hussein had attempted to buy yellow cake uranium in Africa. At the time Mrs Plame’s name was revealed in the Bob Novak article, President Bush pledged the full support of his administration to find out who perpetrated the illegal act of identifying a CIA agent’s name. He directed his staff to fully cooperate with the FBI to determine the name of this person. Evidently Karl Rove must not have gotten that instruction of the president.

It is now time for both Rove and Limbaugh to face the music. They should both be charged and tried in court. To ignore Limbaugh’s obtaining illegal drugs through doctor shopping or Karl Rove’s illegal act of outing the name of a CIA agent, would be 100% WRONG. We cannot allow these right wing ideologues who either help make policy or influence people with their radio program to not face the same consequences as other Americans who break our laws. Please do not tell me neither Rove or Limbaugh have been convicted. The issue is to bring them to trial and determine their GUILT or INNOCENCE!

It will be very telling of George W. Bush as to what he will do now that Karl Rove has been identified by one of the reporters as the person who released the name of our CIA agent. Although Bush cannot cover it up like Nixon in Watergate, the question is will the Bush administration support Rove being charged and brought to court or if he’s found guilty will Bush pardon him for breaking the law that Bush himself said was a serious offense. As for Rush Limbaugh, his 20 million listeners every day need to understand that their right-wing guru is subject to the same laws and penalties for breaking the laws as everyone else. Last week very definitely documented the values of these two influential right wingers in America. They have shown total disdain for our laws and for the values that has made this country great. It is time for Rove and Limbaugh to face the music.

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on Jul 12, 2005
I can answer your previous question Doggie.....

Show me ONE instance in recent history where any dem who has broken the law has NOT been punished. James Trafficante is still sitting in a jail cell in Marion, IL. Bubba was impeached, Sandy got caught. But the self righteous nature of you and your party causes you to think that somehow republicans are above breaking the law. When in fact they excel at breaking it!

Tricky Dick
Newt
Tommy Boy DeLay
Karl Rove
G. Gordon Liddy
Rush
Spiro T Agnew

You righties refuse to accept one glaring fact. That corruption, graft, and high crimes aren't an exclusively democratic domain. Your team has just as much of a dark history as anybody else in this particular area.

Politics is a dirty business folks. Republican s**t smells just as bad as Democrat s**t.



Get off your high horsies fellas. Your guy got caught and the house of cards is just about to tip over. I'm just wondering if Karl has the balls to fall on his sword and take one for dubya.

on Jul 12, 2005
Bubba was impeached


---Bubba? do you mean clinton...cause he was never impeached... when has newt gingrich done anything wrong? never heard anything about him...
on Jul 12, 2005

I can answer your previous question Doggie.....

Show me ONE instance in recent history where any dem who has broken the law has NOT been punished. James Trafficante is still sitting in a jail cell in Marion, IL. Bubba was impeached, Sandy got caught. But the self righteous nature of you and your party causes you to think that somehow republicans are above breaking the law. When in fact they excel at breaking it!

Tricky Dick
Newt
Tommy Boy DeLay
Karl Rove
G. Gordon Liddy
Rush
Spiro T Agnew

You righties refuse to accept one glaring fact. That corruption, graft, and high crimes aren't an exclusively democratic domain. Your team has just as much of a dark history as anybody else in this particular area.

Politics is a dirty business folks. Republican s**t smells just as bad as Democrat s**t.



Get off your high horsies fellas. Your guy got caught and the house of cards is just about to tip over. I'm just wondering if Karl has the balls to fall on his sword and take one for dubya.


Your the one that obviously needs to get off their high horse. I said this before and so have alot of other people. Rove gave NO ONE Plame's name. Even the papers say so! Tom Delay? Has NOT been either charged nor convicted of any crime. Liddy? He did his time, get over it! Rush? under investigation, we'll see. Tricky Dick? I'll go along with on this one. He should have spent time in jail. Newt? I'd like to know what you think he did wrong. And the same with Agnew. So ours have paid their dues as have yours (with the exception of Kerry). Whats the point of all this?
on Jul 12, 2005
Your the one that obviously needs to get off their high horse. I said this before and so have alot of other people. Rove gave NO ONE Plame's name. Even the papers say so! Tom Delay? Has NOT been either charged nor convicted of any crime. Liddy? He did his time, get over it! Rush? under investigation, we'll see. Tricky Dick? I'll go along with that he should have spent time. Newt? I'd like to know what you think he did wrong. And the same with Agnew. So ours have paid their dues as have yours (with the exception of Kerry). Whats the point of all this?


--Also, i heard that Pelosi herself is under investigation for the very same thing Delay is being bashed for...takes one to know one...wonder why no liberals have mentioned that...perhaps they don't listen to that type of news... (sarcasim)
on Jul 12, 2005
Sandy berger was convicted of a misdemeanor, fined $10k and lost his security clearance for 3 years. I wonder if Dems would be satisfied with that for Rove? Based upon all the "frog marched in handcuffs" junk, I assume they want the gallows or something similar. Berger's penalty would be railed against as a slap on the wrist.

If this had come out of the blue, I'd tend to agree more, but the Left around here have been slamming Rove since day one. He's been blamed for Iraq, called a child molester, a homosexual, blah, blah. Now that there is something we're supposed to think it is some unbiased, righteous outrage? Hardly.

If Rove knowingly outed a covert agent, risking her life, then sure, give him the works. If Rove simply said "That jerk's wife got him the job by harping to her bosses.", then I think you'll have to stretch it to make it "Identifying a covert agent."
on Jul 12, 2005
I'd add that if Rove gets an OUNCE of punishment, the reporters in question should get ten times as much. Novak and the guy from TIME are the ones who put her name in the public view.

Even if Rove told them, they didn't have to publish it. They made the choice to "out" her publicly, so they should hang TWICE if Rove hangs. If not, it will send a message to the press that they aren't accountable so long as they find a scapegoat to leak to them.

on Jul 13, 2005
Get off your high horsies fellas. Your guy got caught and the house of cards is just about to tip over.


This is just absurd, TGISLC. There's no "high horsie" to get off of here. "Our" guy hasn't been "caught" and there is no house of cards. Why do you refuse to see the facts staring you in the face? There was no intent to "out" anyone or compromise a CIA agent or get revenge on Wilson, a motive completely invented by the press and unsupported by anything other than reporters' imaginations. Even some liberals are acknowledging that Rove was simply cautioning Cooper that Wilson was unreliable (as has since been confirmed by the Senate Intelligence committee) and that Rove spoke on condition that the information not be used (that double secret background business - pretty funny moniker but legitimate invocation, nonetheless) - he didn't even know Wilson's wife's name or the nature of her work at the CIA, only that he'd heard she worked there & had gotten him the job, and was explicit with Cooper that even that was not for publication. How anyone can twist all this into "intent to out a CIA operative to embarrass Wilson" is beyond logical understanding. Exactly how would that "discredit" Wilson anyway? The fact is what Rove was alluding to was true and it was Wilson who was jerking the presses chain. If anyone should be having his nuts held to the fire by the press, it's Wilson - we know he lied and tried to take advantage of what he learned on a classified mission for political purposes. But Wilson's animosity toward the administration makes him a fellow traveler and earns him a pass. For the press & the left, it's the ends, not the means.

Whatever transgressions committed in the past, real or imagined, by operatives of either party, have no bearing on this particular brouhaha. Intellectual honesty requires that the facts be examined neutrally. It further requires that we wait to learn what, if anything, the special prosecutor or the grand jury may say about Rove's actions and truthfulness with the grand jury. This has been nothing more than a political lynching attempt. I'm willing to bet that almost noone outside the Beltway has anything but disgust for it. Nonetheless, If Rove has lied about his conversation with Cooper, then he should savor his just desserts and resign. My money says he told truth and has nothing to fear.

Cheers,
Daiwa
on Jul 13, 2005
a homosexual


--how ironic...
on Jul 13, 2005
-Also, i heard that Pelosi herself is under investigation for the very same thing Delay is being bashed for...takes one to know one...wonder why no liberals have mentioned that...perhaps they don't listen to that type of news...


Wonder why the MSM isn't covering it the way the covered Delay?



I can answer your previous question Doggie.....

Show me ONE instance in recent history where any dem who has broken the law has NOT been punished. James Trafficante is still sitting in a jail cell in Marion, IL. Bubba was impeached, Sandy got caught. But the self righteous nature of you and your party causes you to think that somehow republicans are above breaking the law. When in fact they excel at breaking it!

Tricky Dick
Newt
Tommy Boy DeLay
Karl Rove
G. Gordon Liddy
Rush
Spiro T Agnew


As other posters have already said, I would to see all the crimes committed by some of these people. Why does the media go into a frenzy when a Repbulican is accused of wrongdoing, but totally ignores it when it's a democrat?
on Jul 13, 2005
What someone else did does not justify what Rove and Limbaugh did. They are both "DIRT BAGS" that pose as moral Americans. Any person who can justify their actions are just like them and are the bottom feeders of our society!
on Jul 13, 2005
What someone else did does not justify what Rove and Limbaugh did. They are both "DIRT BAGS" that pose as moral Americans. Any person who can justify their actions are just like them and are the bottom feeders of our society!


Thanks for providing more of your opinions col. Will you finally admit you are completely partisan and give passes to democrats now?

How many times are you going to avoid the question?
on Jul 13, 2005
What a lame argument that Rove did not use her actual name. You do not need to say her name when you say Wilson's wife works for the CIA. It clearly idenyifies her as a CIA Agent. Another issue is who gave Wilson his assignment in Iraq. Last night CNN stated that Cheney was the one that gave him his assignment not Wilson's wife!

Is there anything Bush or his staff could do that would get the Bushies to admit he or his staff are worng?
on Jul 13, 2005
What someone else did does not justify what Rove and Limbaugh did. They are both "DIRT BAGS" that pose as moral Americans. Any person who can justify their actions are just like them and are the bottom feeders of our society!


Why don't you just take a hike, asshat? Rove did nothing and when he gets acquitted I will expect an apology from you. Oh, that's right you'll just ignore that fact. Talk about bottom feeders, look in a mirror.
on Jul 13, 2005
What a lame argument that Rove did not use her actual name. You do not need to say her name when you say Wilson's wife works for the CIA. It clearly idenyifies her as a CIA Agent. Another issue is who gave Wilson his assignment in Iraq. Last night CNN stated that Cheney was the one that gave him his assignment not Wilson's wife!


She was not an agent col. Do you understand this?

Last night CNN stated that Cheney was the one that gave him his assignment not Wilson's wife!


There is no proof that Cheney did that. All the reports I have read is that his wife was repsonsible. That's CNN for you, distort the facts to bash Bush. Sound familiar col?
on Jul 13, 2005
Another reminder col. She was not a CIA agent, or a spy.
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