I had not sceen the July 13, 2005 article. However, that does not alter the fact that Cooper testified,under oath before the GJ, the it was"ROVE THAT TOLD HIM MRS WILSON WAS A CIA AGENT! " That was in TIME last week. Rove also told Cooper the information was about to be declassified thus Rove knew what he told Cooper was classified. When all the facts are known, altgough Rove may not have been the target of the SP investigation, he may be one of those charged! Saying this is not a serious matter does NOT AGREE with what the CIA believes is the case. Rove has a BIG mouth and had no business talking about matters that deal with our security to reporters. At the time he talked with Cooper and Novak he was the President's Political advisor NOT his Security Advisor! WHY was Rove involved with ANYTHING to do with the CIA?

When all the facts are known, altgough Rove may not have been the target of the SP investigation, he may be one of those charged!

There is nothing to charge Rove with. Do you even read anything that counters all your opinions and distortions?

Saying this is not a serious matter does NOT AGREE with what the CIA believes is the case. Rove has a BIG mouth and had no business talking about matters that deal with our security to reporters. At the time he talked with Cooper and Novak he was the President's Political advisor NOT his Security Advisor! WHY was Rove involved with ANYTHING to do with the CIA?

As usual you ignore everything told to you col. These investigations are common and the only people making a big deal out of it are you and the liberal media.

Next thing col. Nothing Rove said has anything to do with "our" security. He was debunking Wilson as a fraud (which has been proven), so Rove was doing his job. The only person to blame in this whole non-scandal is Plame herself. She put herself in this situation the moment she used her husband as a political operative.

You lost again col.

I had not seen the July 13, 2005 article. However, that does not alter the fact that Cooper testified,under oath before the GJ, the it was"ROVE THAT TOLD HIM MRS WILSON WAS A CIA AGENT! " That was in TIME last week. Rove also told Cooper the information was about to be declassified thus Rove knew what he told Cooper was classified. When all the facts are known, although Rove may not have been the target of the SP investigation, he may be one of those charged! Saying this is not a serious matter does NOT AGREE with what the CIA believes is the case. Rove has a BIG mouth and had no business talking about matters that deal with our security to reporters. At the time he talked with Cooper and Novak he was the President's Political adviser NOT his Security Adviser! WHY was Rove involved with ANYTHING to do with the CIA?

It alters EVERYTHING concerning ROVE, you sorry excuse for an american! You have been told over and over that Rove is not the target of the investigation. And over and over you have screamed from the roof tops "Yes, he IS!". Well you have been proven wrong once again! Rove is NOT the target. Never was. No one has EVER stated that this was not serious. It surely is! But NOT to Rove it isn't! And it may well be that he is indited in the end. But until that "actually" happens you can quit calling for his blood. And just an aside....here's a direct quote from Cooper.:

As for Wilson's wife, I told the grand jury I was certain that Rove never used her name and that, indeed, I did not learn her name until the following week, when I either saw it in Robert Novak's column or Googled her, I can't recall which. Rove did, however, clearly indicate that she worked at the "agency"--by that,

Note that Rove did NOT say CIA! Also that Rove NEVER used her name!

I told the grand jury, I inferred that he obviously meant the CIA and not, say, the Environmental Protection Agency. Rove added that she worked on "WMD" (the abbreviation for weapons of mass destruction) issues and that she was responsible for sending Wilson. This was the first time I had heard anything about Wilson's wife.

And btw...the facts do not support your theories!

drmiler

You do not need to use her madern name to identify her. Rove told Cooper Wilson's wife was a CIA Agent. None of you EVER explain why the CIA believes this is such a serious issue. You say it is the "Liberal Media" The CIA is NOT the liberal media!!!

You do not need to use her madern name to identify her. Rove told Cooper Wilson's wife was a CIA Agent.

He didn't say that, read the post col.

None of you EVER explain why the CIA believes this is such a serious issue. You say it is the "Liberal Media" The CIA is NOT the liberal media!!!

I haven't seen where the CIA is making a big deal about this. I told you these investigations are normal, and the only reason it gets coverage in the media is because people like you have some theory that Rove is guilty of something. This is a non-story.

Rove told Cooper Wilson's wife was a CIA Agent.

Wrong answer! Now go back and re-read my post! He said "agency" NOT CIA! CIA was assumed by Cooper!

It seems to me that anyone who is accused of leaking names of any CIA employee who is not designated to be publicly known, should be investigated. Regardless of which party they belong to. It just so happens that Karl Rove happens to be a republican. I would be all for the same treatment if he was a democrat.

You just can't do things like this, especially nowadays. When you out any intelligence operative, you run the risk of endangering anyone who has ever worked with the outed operative. This is a dangerous ploy that can cost people their lives, endanger ongoing covert operations, and compromise the entire intelligence apparatus of the US government.

The fact it was done as political payback for someone not playing ball just makes it worse.

Give em hell COL.

It seems to me that anyone who is accused of leaking names of any CIA employee who is not designated to be publicly known, should be investigated. Regardless of which party they belong to. It just so happens that Karl Rove happens to be a republican. I would be all for the same treatment if he was a democrat. You just can't do things like this, especially nowadays. When you out any intelligence operative, you run the risk of endangering anyone who has ever worked with the outed operative. This is a dangerous ploy that can cost people their lives, endanger ongoing covert operations, and compromise the entire intelligence apparatus of the US government. The fact it was done as political payback for someone not playing ball just makes it worse. Give em hell COL.

Give them what? Give them misinformation? Why don't you go read what I posted in reply #78. Here let me help:

As for Wilson's wife, I told the grand jury I was certain that Rove never used her name and that, indeed, I did not learn her name until the following week, when I either saw it in Robert Novak's column or Googled her, I can't recall which. Rove did, however, clearly indicate that she worked at the "agency"--by that,I told the grand jury, I inferred that he obviously meant the CIA and not, say, the Environmental Protection Agency. Rove added that she worked on "WMD" (the abbreviation for weapons of mass destruction) issues and that she was responsible for sending Wilson. This was the first time I had heard anything about Wilson's wife.

This is a direct quote from Cooper btw. Now try again.

It just so happens that Karl Rove happens to be a republican. I would be all for the same treatment if he was a democrat.

Of course the media would only go into a frenzy with a Republican.

The fact it was done as political payback for someone not playing ball just makes it worse. Give em hell COL.

First of all, he didn't do anything wrong. Next, there is no evidence what Rove did do was "payback". Wilson is a fraud and Rove was warning a reporter. He was doing his job.

TGISLC -

The fact it was done as political payback for someone not playing ball just makes it worse.

This is certainly the theory that the MSM are working, but there is absolutely no evidence to date that supports this theory - it is just the presumed motive based on the assumption that Rove intentionally outted her. Mind you, it depends entirely on that assumption - otherwise the theory collapses. And it's not that Wilson "wasn't playing ball" - he was blatantly misrepresenting his findings and report, as confirmed by the bipartisan Senate committee that investigated his claims.

What I have read so far fails to substantiate the notion that there was some sort of fierce campaign to discredit Wilson himself, as opposed to his claims. I've also yet to hear a plausible explanation of how the simple disclosure, intentional or otherwise, of his wife's identity & status with the CIA would "discredit" or "undermine" Wilson or his claims, despite asking for such an explanation repeatedly here and in other threads on this subject.

Cheers,
Daiwa

Cooper appeared on TV and said he learned Wiklson's wife was a CIA Agent who worked on WMD from Rove and that Libby confirmed that. ALL else is BS. Rove has a BIG mouth talking to the press about CIA Agents. What the Hell is the Presidents Political advisor ( That is what he was at that time) doing talking to trhe press about our CIA Agents? How about one of you blind Bushies answer that question!!!!!!!!! Cooper said in TIME " This is the first time I had heard anything about Wilson's wife" There is no doubt, Cooper learned Mrs Plame was a CIA agent from Rove!

What the Hell is the Presidents Political advisor ( That is what he was at that time) doing talking to trhe press about our CIA Agents?

I'm not a blind Bushie, but you have annoyed me into answering this any way: Again, Plame was not a field agent and had not been for years.

Cooper said in TIME: "As for Wilson's wife, I told the grand jury I was certain that Rove never used her name and that, indeed, I did not learn her name until the following week, when I either saw it in Robert Novak's column or Googled her, I can't recall which. Rove did, however, clearly indicate that she worked at the "agency"".

Cooper learned Mrs Plame was a CIA agent from Rove!

Cooper learned that Mrs Plame worked for the CIA, not that she was an agent from Rove (which she was not an agent). It is not much of a secret CIA agent cover if Cooper got her name from Google. It would surprise me if Rove had even known that Plame ever was an Agent, with how openly Plame and Wilson flaunted where she worked.

Cooper's own words refute you, Gene. But keep banging your head on the wall. It's kind of fun to watch.

Cheers,
Daiwa

What the Hell is the Presidents Political advisor ( That is what he was at that time) doing talking to trhe press about our CIA Agents? How about one of you blind Bushies answer that question!!!!!!!!!

We have answered that question several times. You just won't accept the answer.

Rove was debunking Wilson. That was it. Everybody here is telling you are wrong, but you don't get it. You lose again col.

But keep banging your head on the wall. It's kind of fun to watch.

-LMAO

--Ya know what guys...i know it might get on your nerves concerning what COL is doing...but have ya tried the silent treatment, as LW said in another topic, you're playing into his hands.....just a thought.....