Evaluation of the policies of George W. Bush and his Republican conservatives on America.


The strategy at the White House has changed with respect to the Iraq War. We are now attempting to withdrawal just as soon as we have trained enough Iraq security and military forces. Bush wants to make the withdrawal appear legitimate and when that magic number has been achieved, you will see the troops begin to come home. The truth is we are not winning the military battle against the insurgents. Our military fight and die to secure an area and a few months later the very same elements are operating in that area. We then repeat the action and loose more of our troops. We do not have the manpower to control the entire country and prevent the reintroduction of the insurgent forces in the areas that we cleared with our precious military lives.

When the history books are written about this conflict, it will not be a positive oration. First, the rationale for the war was untrue. Bush supporters will say everyone thought there was WMD and therefore he did not lie as to his reason for attacking Iraq. The problem with that rationale is that the reason given today is to provide the Iraqi people the right to choose their own government. If that were the reason we chose to depose Saddam Hussein, that is the reason that Bush should have provided the Congress of the United States before asking for approval of the war resolution. Bush did not give that reason and this whole process was justified by the imminent danger to the United States. Then Bush said it was to enforce the UN Resolutions however the UN NEVER made the United States or England the enforcement agent for UN resolutions. Another rational Bush gave to remove Saddam was to rid the world of an evil dictator. There are many more evil dictators that exist in this world and Saddam Hussein was not the worst of the lot. If you have any doubt about that, look at what is happening to millions of people in Africa. If we were to provide this choice of the type of government that Bush NOW claims is the reason for the war, why not Cuba 90 miles from Florida? Why not Syria, North Korea, Iran, China or a host of other countries where the people do not have a choice. Why not our so-called ally, Saudi Arabia.

The real reason Bush wanted to invade Iraq may never be known. It was clear that this was in Bush's mind when he first took office. The removal of Saddam Hussein was a discussion item at the VERY FIRST Cabinet meeting. This has been clearly stated by the former Treasury Secretary Paul O' Neal. This was before 9/11, before we were attacked or heard about the War on Terrorism in America. The lesson we must learn is that in the future if a president asks Congress to go war with reasons that are not as stated, that president needs to be impeached and removed from office. If George W. Bush had asked Congress for authorization to attack Iraq so that Iraq people could select their own form of government, the resolution would NEVER have been approved. It is a sad day for this country that our president did not give the actual reason for America to go to war. The Bush LIE has cost America over 1,800 lives, more then 25,000 injured and over $300 billion dollars! It has created thousands if not millions of NEW enemies all over the world!

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on Aug 12, 2005
Abandon all hope all ye who enter this thread or the C.O.L.'s blog site....

The statements made in the preceding article are guaranteed to raise your blood pressure, contain many factual inaccuracies, and generally be a pile of dung.

But let that not stop people from wasting time feeding the JU troll.
on Aug 12, 2005
"We are now attempting to withdrawal just as soon as we have trained enough Iraq security and military forces."--ColG

Which is exactly what you and you and your fellow Bush-bashers have been calling for for two years and more. Make up your mind, CG, is this what you want or not?

"Bush said it was to enforce the UN Resolutions however the UN NEVER made the United States or England the enforcement agent for UN resolutions."---ColG

And yet, who ALWAYS, all through the 90s and into the new century, ended up being the ones to hold Saddam accountable and put him back in his place? The US and Britain. If you place your faith in the UN, get ready to be disappointed, CG. They made money off him...and lots of it.

"Why not Syria, North Korea, Iran, China or host of other countries were the people do not have a choice. Why not our so-called ally Saudi Arabia."--CG

Look; since we put Saddam in power in the first place, and
supported him with money and supplies and weaponry, he was our responsibility. We did the right thing in taking him out, whether or not the right reasons were given. Where do you get this stuff, CG?

And, while I'm at it, using exclamation points doesn't do much to help your argument. it makes you look like a fanatic.
on Aug 12, 2005
The reason Bush gave to go to WAR is NOT the reason he now states. This was a BIG error and there are NO untrue statements in this Blog. Iraq is a disaster and after we turn this over to the Iraqi people, the possibility of a civil war exists. If that happens, we will take the blame for that as well!
on Aug 12, 2005
The war was faught on patently false grounds. The use of the Shock and Awe tactics of the Bushmen made the war avirutual war against the civillian popualtion. In fact Bush and Blair should be tried as war criminals.
on Aug 12, 2005
How many times are you going to post the same bs?


First, the rationale for the war was untrue. Bush supporters will say everyone thought there was WMD and therefore he did not lie as to his reason for attacking Iraq


Here is your first lie col. Bush did not lie col, and everybody here has asked for definitive proof of lies or intentional misleading, and not one has come with proof. The committies which investigated have determined there was no intentional misleading or any wrongdoing. Just understand that fact col.

Then Bush said it was to enforce the UN Resolutions however the UN NEVER made the United States or England the enforcement agent for UN resolutions


Then who is col. France? Iraq violated the cease-fire agreement, and defied many U.N. resolutions. Iraq was to be held accountable and only the U.S. and it's strongest allies were going to do it.

Another rational Bush gave to remove Saddam was to rid the world of an evil dictator. There are many more evil dictators that exist in this world and Saddam Hussein was not the worst of the lot. If you have any doubt about that, look at what is happening to millions of people in Africa. If we were to provide this choice of the type of government that Bush NOW claims is the reason for the war, why not Cuba 90 miles from Florida? Why not Syria, North Korea, Iran, China or a host of other countries where the people do not have a choice. Why not our so-called ally, Saudi Arabia.


Because you can't take on every person in the world at once col. Afghanistan was the start, Iraq was next, and we will continue until terrorists and their supporter (yes, Iraq was a supporter of terrorism) are gone.

The removal of Saddam Hussein was a discussion item at the VERY FIRST Cabinet meeting.


As usual col you try to make an issue out of everything. President Clinton signed an executive order stating Iraq must have regime change. I can only imagine Iraq was discussed at several cabinet meetings during the Clinton administration. Where are your posts about that col? Iraq has been a problem for years col, stop acting like it's some conspiracy.

The Bush LIE has cost America over 1,800 lives, more then 25,000 injured and over $300 billion dollars! It has created thousands if not millions of NEW enemies all over the world!


There was no lie col. Either prove it or shut up.
on Aug 12, 2005
The use of the Shock and Awe tactics of the Bushmen made the war avirutual war against the civillian popualtion. In fact Bush and Blair should be tried as war criminals.



And yet, civilian targets, beyond communications centers and utilities such electricity and the like, were as scrupulously avoided as possible. If it were as bad as you hysterically anti-Bush people make it out to be, Iraq should be nothing but a gigantic smoking crater.


The reason Bush gave to go to WAR is NOT the reason he now states. This was a BIG error and there are NO untrue statements in this Blog. Iraq is a disaster and after we turn this over to the Iraqi people, the possibility of a civil war exists. If that happens, we will take the blame for that as well!


I've said this before; what Bush did with his war is, to me anyway, virtually the same thing Lincoln did during the Civil War with the Emancipation Proclamation. He changed the objective in order to give the soldiers something more noble to fight for.
There were no WMDs...okay. The intelligence (which, as has been noted before time and time again, was believed wholeheartedly for years by the now--conveniently--anti-war democrats) was wrong. Poop happens. We got into the war because of a mistake, but now we're stuck with it; we need a reason to justify our presence. We'll take out Saddam and bring democracy and a better standard of living to the people of Iraq, if their fanatic fellow Moslems will let us. But they won't, because they don't want a free, westernized culture to take root in the middle east; they'd rather keep the backward, oppressive way of existence they have. I guess a better way to say is that they'd rather have the Iraqis living under a brutal and homicidal tyrant that to let them have freedom and self-determination. And these are the people you seem to support, guys. Way to go.

There was no lie col. Either prove it or shut up.
--Island dog

Couldn't have said it better myself.
on Aug 12, 2005
By your standards col, President Clinton should have been impeached for bombing Iraq. How about Kosovo?
on Aug 12, 2005
This was a BIG error and there are NO untrue statements in this Blog.


Ok, then let me add another fact here.

Fact: you are doing nothing but trolling with your constant bashing. You have no proof of any of your facts, and you continue to do nothing but bash, bash, bash in an effort to get attention you seem to be starved for.

I pray your batteries run out again soon, so that perhaps the rest of us can be spared more of your tirades into your dictation machine.

And for the record, the following is a bald faced lie, or at a minimum a serious mistatement of facts:

The strategy at the White House has changed with respect to the Iraq War. We are now attempting to withdrawal just as soon as we have trained enough Iraq security and military forces. Bush wants to make the withdrawal appear legitimate and when that magic number has been achieved, you will see the troops begin to come home.


The strategy hasn't changed at all. You wish it had, and you troll as if it had, but it hasn't changed a bit. We leave when the job is done. When the Iraqis can govern themselves. Just as in Afghanistan. Just as in other places we have liberated along the way.

But again, you contort facts, and wish others didn't notice it, or maybe even more sinisterly, you hope they do so that you can get some attention.


Go crawl back under a rock for a while. Things were pretty nice during the time you apparently vacationed and were not posting these bogus articles.
on Aug 12, 2005
Post deleted by author. Sorry guys, I forgot ColG claims to be a moderate conservative, so it didn't make sense.
on Aug 12, 2005
Proof

1,830 dead, 25,000 injured, $300 Billion so far for the Iraq War. ALL FACTS. Another fact. Bush did not say to Congress when he asked for the authority to go to WAR it was to "Give the Iraqi people the right to choose their government" Thus he LIED as to the reason we went to WAR. He would NEVER have reveived Congressional approval for the Iraq War if he told the truth-- There is NO ONE that is talking about defeating the insurgents in Iraq. We are just trying to hold on long enough to train some magic number of Iraqi military and police to make withdrawal look acceptable. Fact- there was no reason we had to go to war in Iraq. Fact, we NEVER completed the task in Afghanistan. Fact- We NEVER had the number of forces to control Iraq because BUSH knows more then the generals who told him it would take 300,000 to do the job properly. We went in with 1/3 that number!!!!!!!!!
on Aug 12, 2005
Tsk. Again with the exclamation points. You're going to have a stroke, ColG.

Fact: You're nothing but a hysteric. A fanatically Bush-hating feeb who doesn't know what's fact and what's not anymore, because you've made up so many of your own "facts", or twisted the truth and real facts to suit your own views.
Can you even write about anything else?
on Aug 12, 2005
1,830 dead, 25,000 injured, $300 Billion so far for the Iraq War. ALL FACTS.


Those "facts" don't equal proof col.


Bush did not say to Congress when he asked for the authority to go to WAR it was to "Give the Iraqi people the right to choose their government" Thus he LIED as to the reason we went to WAR.


That has to be one of the stupidest conclusions I have ever read. It really is too stupid to say anymore about it.


There is NO ONE that is talking about defeating the insurgents in Iraq.


Everytime I hear a General or military spokeman on tv, they always talk about it.


Fact- there was no reason we had to go to war in Iraq. Fact, we NEVER completed the task in Afghanistan. Fact- We NEVER had the number of forces to control Iraq because BUSH knows more then the generals who told him it would take 300,000 to do the job properly. We went in with 1/3 that number!!!!!!!!!


Fact- There is no logical reason to your hatred for Bush.

Fact- There is nothing you are going to do that will change this administration.

Fact- You distort and manipulate data to suit your needs.

Fact- You are full of bs.
on Aug 12, 2005
Fact-- All you Bushies are mindless drones. If you think we are winning in Iraq, you are NUTS! Congress can change our policies if they had the BALLS! I have distorted nothing. The facts stand as proof that Bush is a disgrace! Iraq, the deficit, the trade deficit are just a few of the reasons Bush is a disaster.
on Aug 12, 2005
For months: "GET OUT NOW!!! GET OUT NOW!!! GET OUT NOW!!!"

Now: "BUSH ABANDONING MILITARY VICTORY BY GETTING OUT NOW!!!"

What unadulterated horseshit. Sorry for the points.

Cheers,
Daiwa
on Aug 13, 2005
Congress can change our policies if they had the BALLS! I have distorted nothing.


You have distorted EVERYTHING! I offer as proof your very own rhetoric: How is it Bushs fault with failed policies if it's Congress that doesn't have the "balls" to change the policies?
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