Evaluation of the policies of George W. Bush and his Republican conservatives on America.


The strategy at the White House has changed with respect to the Iraq War. We are now attempting to withdrawal just as soon as we have trained enough Iraq security and military forces. Bush wants to make the withdrawal appear legitimate and when that magic number has been achieved, you will see the troops begin to come home. The truth is we are not winning the military battle against the insurgents. Our military fight and die to secure an area and a few months later the very same elements are operating in that area. We then repeat the action and loose more of our troops. We do not have the manpower to control the entire country and prevent the reintroduction of the insurgent forces in the areas that we cleared with our precious military lives.

When the history books are written about this conflict, it will not be a positive oration. First, the rationale for the war was untrue. Bush supporters will say everyone thought there was WMD and therefore he did not lie as to his reason for attacking Iraq. The problem with that rationale is that the reason given today is to provide the Iraqi people the right to choose their own government. If that were the reason we chose to depose Saddam Hussein, that is the reason that Bush should have provided the Congress of the United States before asking for approval of the war resolution. Bush did not give that reason and this whole process was justified by the imminent danger to the United States. Then Bush said it was to enforce the UN Resolutions however the UN NEVER made the United States or England the enforcement agent for UN resolutions. Another rational Bush gave to remove Saddam was to rid the world of an evil dictator. There are many more evil dictators that exist in this world and Saddam Hussein was not the worst of the lot. If you have any doubt about that, look at what is happening to millions of people in Africa. If we were to provide this choice of the type of government that Bush NOW claims is the reason for the war, why not Cuba 90 miles from Florida? Why not Syria, North Korea, Iran, China or a host of other countries where the people do not have a choice. Why not our so-called ally, Saudi Arabia.

The real reason Bush wanted to invade Iraq may never be known. It was clear that this was in Bush's mind when he first took office. The removal of Saddam Hussein was a discussion item at the VERY FIRST Cabinet meeting. This has been clearly stated by the former Treasury Secretary Paul O' Neal. This was before 9/11, before we were attacked or heard about the War on Terrorism in America. The lesson we must learn is that in the future if a president asks Congress to go war with reasons that are not as stated, that president needs to be impeached and removed from office. If George W. Bush had asked Congress for authorization to attack Iraq so that Iraq people could select their own form of government, the resolution would NEVER have been approved. It is a sad day for this country that our president did not give the actual reason for America to go to war. The Bush LIE has cost America over 1,800 lives, more then 25,000 injured and over $300 billion dollars! It has created thousands if not millions of NEW enemies all over the world!

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on Aug 14, 2005
The day the American troops withdraw from Iraq is not too far. The Bushmen are just waiting to hand over power to an Iraqi pupper Regime and declatre victory. The real problem that Iraq faces today is not the violence that the Americsans have unleashed, but a social and economic collapse of the civil society of Iraq. Children who should be in school are having to stay at home, factories are shut, the cities unsafe the hard won economic and political freedom of Iraqi women in peril. The US invasion has literally bombed Mesopotamia back to the days of Nebuchenazzer.
on Aug 14, 2005
Virupaksha

The real result of the Bush War in Iraq will be known after our troops leave and we see what happens in Iraq. It is possible that the end result will be ugly and the world will place the blame at our doorstep! That may be the Bush legacy for Iraq!
on Aug 14, 2005
The real result of the Bush War in Iraq will be known after our troops leave and we see what happens in Iraq. It is possible that the end result will be ugly and the world will place the blame at our doorstep! That may be the Bush legacy for Iraq!


Great positive thinking col. I bet you wish that Iraq would fail just you can blame Bush. The fact is there are many good things happening in Iraq. Just because the liberal media doesn't report them doesn't mean it isn't happening. Just by you agreeing with bahu shows you are just as bad as the enemy in Iraq. Keep agreeing with his anti-American views col, your true self is showing again.

All you have done is complain about Bush, you accuse Iraq of being a "quagmire", which is not true. Now when troops are going to come home you complain about that. You are a hypocrit col, plain and simple.

Now you whole original topic of this thread has shown how you really don't think about anything but blaming Bush. You have been called out again, so you resort to the usual rhetoric about the deficit. I have a question col. Do you have all your "quotes" and "facts" copied so you just paste them when someone counters your usual rhetoric.

You are a sad individual, and your constant bashing of our troops does nothing but help the enemy.



Children who should be in school are having to stay at home, factories are shut, the cities unsafe the hard won
economic and political freedom of Iraqi women in peril. The US invasion has literally bombed Mesopotamia back to the days of Nebuchenazzer.


Why don't you start reading and you will see the children that could never go to school can go now because of U.S. troops rebuilding the schools.
on Aug 14, 2005
I do not wish ill for Iraq. I also do not look at Iraq through rose colored glasses. There is so security, many areas have no clean water or sewer service. Electric is about the same level as before the war. The oil industry that was to provide for the economic needs is not meeting expectations and unemployment is high. Even the Bush administration has lowered their expectations in Iraq. We will be lucky if the new government can keep the country from civil war. Time will tell and although I hope for a good outcome, I feel there is a segnificant risk of a disaster when the American military leaves.
on Aug 14, 2005
There is so security, many areas have no clean water or sewer service. Electric is about the same level as before the war.


That shows me right there you really have no idea what is going on in Iraq. Shadow just recently posted an article detailing how things like water and electric have surpassed expectations. You dont' take the time to find the good news col, just the bad.


Even the Bush administration has lowered their expectations in Iraq. We will be lucky if the new government can keep the country from civil war. Time will tell and although I hope for a good outcome, I feel there is a segnificant risk of a disaster when the American military leaves.


BS. The only people who talk about civil war in Iraq are the liberals like yourself who are hoping for it. The new government is coming together, security forces are taking over more and more, but that doesn't stop your rhetoric. You are a pathetic individual.
on Aug 15, 2005
The real problem that Iraq faces today is not the violence that the Americsans have unleashed, but a social and economic collapse of the civil society of Iraq.
---Bahu Virulentlyantiamericanshit

How did we unleash the violence in Iraq? By toppling their psychopathic, homicidal tyrant, which brought the throngs into the streets to celebrate, or by happily inviting the crazed Moslem zealots to come in from every corner of the world and blow things up?



Children who should be in school are having to stay at home, factories are shut, the cities unsafe the hard won economic and political freedom of Iraqi women in peril.
---Bahu Virulentlyantiamericanshit

Don't lay this at our door, Bahu....are we the ones out their killing them, setting off car bombs and making their hard-won security unstable again? No....that would be their insane fellow Moslems, who would like nothing more than to see the US fail in its mission, even, as we have seen time and again, at the cost of the lives of those they come to "librate" from American "oppression".
Are the women of Iraq safer and more free now than they were in Saddam's era? Of course they are. Are they more free in Iraq (and present-day Afghanistan, for that matter) than in times past? Of course they are. Who do we have to thank for that? Hmmm...THE AMERICANS! Hello! Earth to Bahu! THE BUSH ADMINISRATION! HELLO!


I do not wish ill for Iraq
--ColdefectiveGenes

I find this highly unlikely...it don't doubt one bit that if Iraq fails to come through this trial and sinks into civil war and mass murder in the wake of our withdrawal, you would not smile smugly and utter a warm chuckle, just because your personal Satan failed.



There is so security, many areas have no clean water or sewer service.
---ColdefectiveGenes

More than under Saddam, and if the insurgents would just leave well enough alone, there would be even more and better service. But alas, your Moslem allies over there keep on blowing up substations and water lines and pumping stations, just to keep things off balance.



Time will tell and although I hope for a good outcome,
---ColdefectiveGenes

snort-snicker--snort...yeah right, Klink.

One last thing here...I want to ask Bahu how much time he's spent in Iraq and where? For him to say that we

literally bombed Mesopotamia back to the days of Nebuchenazzer


would seem to indicate personal, intimate knowledge of the entire nation at the present time. How about it, Bahu? How long and/or often have you been in Iraq? Or are you just working up opinions from the dark, negative news you choose to read?
on Aug 15, 2005
Bush talked about invading Iraq during the 2000 election campaign. It predated September 11 by at least a year. Project for a New American Century published articles in 2000 and before justifying why the invasion of Iraq and Iran was 'necessary' in 2000. The strategy though always seemed badly argued, in fact there was no strategic goal beyond increasing American hegemony.

The Administration never believed the WMD lie, in fact Richard Perle admitted this after the conquest but justified it as a 'bureaucratic necessity' at the time to justify the invasion.
on Aug 15, 2005
The Administration never believed the WMD lie, in fact Richard Perle admitted this after the conquest but justified it as a 'bureaucratic necessity' at the time to justify the invasion.


The administration didn't believe it huh? How come that every intell agency in the world did? Or are you going to try and tell me that everyone else got their intell from us? Sorry but that dog don't hunt. We've been through this before.
on Aug 15, 2005
All you Bushies fail to answer, if the REAL reason Bush invaded Iraq was to give the Iraqi people the right to choose their government, then WHY WAS THAT NOT THE REASON BUSH GAVE TO CONGRESS FOR THE WAR AUTHORIZATION?

WHY DID BUSH TALK ABOUT REMOVING SADDAM AT HIS FIRST CABINET MEETING BEFORE 9/11?

If Iraq goes into civil war after our military leave, it will be a SAD day beacuse that will mean our dead and injured military accomplished NOTHING in Iraq!
on Aug 15, 2005
TOTALWAR OR NO WAR!

A POX ON BOTH YOUR HOUSES!

GIVE BUSH A BULL-HORN AND A MOUND OF RUBBLE... HE'S ONE HELL OF A CHEERLEADER! HE HAD ME FOOLED THAT DAY TOO.

WE NEED A REAL LEADER WHO WILL COMMITT TO TOTAL WAR OR PULL BACK HOME AND DECLARE WAR ON BLOOD-OIL.

B0YCOTT OIL...

MAKE A DEAL WITH CHINA AND DESTROY THE MIDDLE EAST, CARVING UP THE OIL, TURNING THAT SAND TOLIET INTO A FILLING STATION FOR BMWS, ETC.
on Aug 15, 2005
All you Bushies fail to answer, if the REAL reason Bush invaded Iraq was to give the Iraqi people the right to choose their government, then WHY WAS THAT NOT THE REASON BUSH GAVE TO CONGRESS FOR THE WAR AUTHORIZATION?

WHY DID BUSH TALK ABOUT REMOVING SADDAM AT HIS FIRST CABINET MEETING BEFORE 9/11?

If Iraq goes into civil war after our military leave, it will be a SAD day beacuse that will mean our dead and injured military accomplished NOTHING in Iraq!


Aww be quite you old fool!
on Aug 15, 2005
can't we all just get along. i luv u all very much. it hurts me in the darkest recess of my ... that we don't just hold hands and sing songs. i iuv the col. i luv the dr. why can't man love eachother too?
on Aug 15, 2005
my bad breath could settle the whole sordid affair. Fresh faces on joeuser make me sneeze.
on Aug 15, 2005
the stuff that pours out of my ass after a big mexican-tai dinner sells for $3.00 per gallon. Get a load of that...

LITTLE DIP-SHIT SIGING OFF TO GO SLIP INTO MY SHEET

on Aug 15, 2005
All you Bushies fail to answer, if the REAL reason Bush invaded Iraq was to give the Iraqi people the right to choose their government, then WHY WAS THAT NOT THE REASON BUSH GAVE TO CONGRESS FOR THE WAR AUTHORIZATION?


We have answered you many times, but it doesn't fit your "blame Bush" agenda so you ignore it.



WHY DID BUSH TALK ABOUT REMOVING SADDAM AT HIS FIRST CABINET MEETING BEFORE 9/11?


Why did Clinton sign an executive order citing regime change in Iraq?
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